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« on: October 04, 2006, 07:59:49 am »
I still dream of hooking my Zaurus up to a monitor.
It seems like few have the expertise to build a hardware addon that will give us VGA-OUT and they have little time and other priorities that restrict them from focusing on it.

So...
How about a little Thin Client box that you can use to connect to your Zaurus?
I have next to zero experience with thin clients. I've got a handfull of Sun Ray's that I'm struggling to get wokring with a UNIX install.

Are there thin clients that will connect via VNC, RD?
Is there "small footprint" thin cllient server software packages that could be recompiled for the Zaurus?
I've tried googling but haven't found anything yet that would work.
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2006, 08:11:04 am »
I just found this guy:
http://www.axel.com/focus/vnc_e.html

Looks interesting.
Anyone have one that the've tried with their Zaurus?
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2006, 08:25:35 am »
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2006, 10:21:33 am »
hey antikz,
     I haven't tried this yet, but I have a theory...  There is a blaze psp to tv adapter.  It isn't one of the ones that needs internal hacking.  You simply place it over the lcd and it transfers the information through av cables to your tv.  Now, there isn't that much of  huge difference between the z and psp screen. With a little bit of physical hacking of the adapter I think we could easily have our z on a tv, which is the next best thing to a monitor (albeit, a poorer resolution and not nearly as cool looking).

Just an idea.

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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2006, 11:24:59 am »
Yes... there are thin clients that would work with VNC... actually I read an article before that someone had 3 thin clients in his house and a Z SL-5500 that ran the vnc server...

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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2006, 12:09:37 pm »
psp screen dimension:
Sony PSP screen
Screen dimensions
Diameter:    " / 10.9 cm
Width:    3.74" / 9.5 cm
Height:    2.12" / 5.4 cm


the Z screen is taller and narrower (I couldn't find the dimensions, and couldn't find a ruler either)

BUT it might just work, and certainly is cheap enough (around $50 usd) to try casually.  I'm afraid, though that you'd have a dubious top or bottom, and black bars on the sides of your display. anybody have the Z screen dimensions handy?
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2006, 12:14:03 pm »
Yeah, I figured about the black bars.  It might be a sacrifice I am willing to make for a fairly fast, non vnc idea.  However, right now I have to pay for college... ugh.  Somebody else should give it a try :-D

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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2006, 01:54:14 pm »
This would be awesome especially for NES emulators.
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2006, 02:10:15 pm »
Oh, a note I should have added.  I use the blaze psp screen protectors for psp.  I did have to cut a little off the length, but the width is *almost* perfect..  It's off by about a mm

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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2006, 06:44:16 pm »
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Yes... there are thin clients that would work with VNC... actually I read an article before that someone had 3 thin clients in his house and a Z SL-5500 that ran the vnc server...

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Thanks for the idea's anyone.
InSearchOf... if you can find that article I would be interested in reading it.
If one were to use static IP's you could probably even use I cross over cable (I would think).
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2006, 12:46:44 pm »
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Yes... there are thin clients that would work with VNC... actually I read an article before that someone had 3 thin clients in his house and a Z SL-5500 that ran the vnc server...

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Thanks for the idea's anyone.
InSearchOf... if you can find that article I would be interested in reading it.
If one were to use static IP's you could probably even use I cross over cable (I would think).
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Wouldn't it be easier to to use xdmcp and gpe or pdaxrom?  You could boot from a usb key and use xdmcp to get on the Z, i would think. this would surely be a useably portable solution 9given that you would have access to a box to bot from)  Also, some people seem to have had success with xdeep32
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2006, 10:49:44 am »
just install the vncserver for your zaurus, there's one in the cacko feed for example

then on the viewer, run "vncviewer 192.168.1.2" or whatever the Z's IP address is. might have to try "vncviewer 192.168.1.2:1" depending on the vnc server.

it works well whether you're using ucb networking, bluetooth or wireless lan; bluetooth tends to be the slowest.
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2006, 01:01:40 pm »
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just install the vncserver for your zaurus, there's one in the cacko feed for example

then on the viewer, run "vncviewer 192.168.1.2" or whatever the Z's IP address is. might have to try "vncviewer 192.168.1.2:1" depending on the vnc server.

it works well whether you're using ucb networking, bluetooth or wireless lan; bluetooth tends to be the slowest.
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I've done X out of pdax, and vncserver out of qt.  X scales nicely, vnc doesn't.  The result is that something like abiword is useful and pleasantv on the big screen, where hancom office is in a tiny box -or at least a big chunky low res one- using vnc.  Maybe there is some scaling option I missed to get vncserver to output higher resolutions? does it do "vncserver -depth 15 -geometry 800x600" for example?  or 1024x768?   i only really tried the prepackaged stuff for sharp rom, and so might have missed something
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2006, 05:51:01 pm »
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I've done X out of pdax, and vncserver out of qt.  X scales nicely, vnc doesn't.  The result is that something like abiword is useful and pleasantv on the big screen, where hancom office is in a tiny box -or at least a big chunky low res one- using vnc.  Maybe there is some scaling option I missed to get vncserver to output higher resolutions? does it do "vncserver -depth 15 -geometry 800x600" for example?  or 1024x768?   i only really tried the prepackaged stuff for sharp rom, and so might have missed something
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there's two ways of doing vncserver, the standard unix/linux method is to create a whole new display, so your desktop is :0, and vncserver creates :1 which is an independent virtual display. You could use this with a load of thin clients and meaty central server, for example.

the other way, which you tend to encounter on windows, is to share the desktop with remote users - the vncviewer would see :0. This can be done on via a tapping into the framebuffer, or at X11 layer; the QT version (and I presume Opie is the same) is the former. This means that the vncviewer gets the same screen size as the user's desktop; the colour palette can be reduced to speed things up.
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