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daniel3000

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« on: October 27, 2006, 09:14:38 am »
Hello,

after some research I think I have finally understood how pdaXrom 1.1.0beta3 is constructed: openbox as the window manager and matchbox-* accessories (panel, applets etc.)

I looked for some configuration issues on the Intenret and found that matchbox (matchbox-window-manager) possibly would fit them.
Openbox, however, doesn't (it's lacking the respective command line options at least).

I saw there is a package "matchbox-window-manager" in the feeds, so now I am considering replacing openbox with matchbox-window-manager.

Questions:

1. Is this the correct way (ie. have I understood the construction correctly)?
2. if I do the replacement, any pointers on what I have to change in config and startup files?
3. Why did the pdaXrom developers choose openbox instead of matchbox-window-manager? What's the advantage?

Thanks a lot!
daniel
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2006, 09:25:13 am »
Have you tried Rox?  Details (and other useful snippets) can be found here, including config lines:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=73&t=20563

There's quite a bit about alternative window managers on this forum.

As far as I can tell, there is no answer to question 3.  

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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2006, 09:49:21 am »
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Have you tried Rox?  Details (and other useful snippets) can be found here, including config lines:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=73&t=20563

There's quite a bit about alternative window managers on this forum.

As far as I can tell, there is no answer to question 3. 
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I am using Rox. However, it is no window manager, but a desktop (or however it should be called).
I am speaking about this piece of software which is responsible for window decoration and window handling. Rox cannot do that, as far as I know.
At least this is how I understood that system.

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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2006, 10:35:44 am »

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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2006, 12:29:09 pm »
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How about Fluxbox?

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21726
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well, I am not sure. The screenshots so not look like what I need, but it is said to be highly configurable...

What I need are better ways to optimize the screen layout for the small Z screen.
For example, I would like to have a way to start the windows of gnumeric, KO/PI etc. maximized, so that the user does not have to do it after startup of these apps.
I'd like to hange the look and feel of the window decoration for convenience of use etc etc.
And It must be mature and stable enough for a system which is supposed to be use by non-geeks!

Will have a look at Fluxbox, too.

Thanks
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2006, 01:28:23 pm »
FVWM and EDE seem to me to have the most potential in this regard--or ICE, it you can fix the panel issue

edit:  not to forget the terrific work on xfce4
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2006, 02:23:07 pm »
XFCE works well and looks nice, but it is more resource-hungry than ICEWM, which I am using. In ICEWM, you can make any app you want fullscreen, which would help the screen space issue.

Just my two cents.
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2006, 06:35:42 pm »
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For example, I would like to have a way to start the windows of gnumeric, KO/PI etc. maximized, so that the user does not have to do it after startup of these apps.
Have a look at this:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=122236
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2006, 06:36:57 pm »
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or ICE, it you can fix the panel issue
What panel issue? Please elaborate!
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2006, 11:16:08 pm »
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or ICE, it you can fix the panel issue
What panel issue? Please elaborate!
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On rotation, the icewm panel moves to the bottom of the screen... then when rotating back, stays below the bottom (or disappears).  Kind of a pain, maybe it has been fixed? I haven't used icewm for about 5 months
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2006, 02:07:21 am »
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For example, I would like to have a way to start the windows of gnumeric, KO/PI etc. maximized, so that the user does not have to do it after startup of these apps.
Have a look at this:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=122236
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Thank you! Indeed works very well!
I alwaysthought only those apps would support the -geometry switchi which have it in their usage hint!

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