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What browsers do you use in pdaXrom?

Just Dillo
4 (11.4%)
Just Firefox
11 (31.4%)
Just Links
1 (2.9%)
Just Minimo
0 (0%)
All of the above
4 (11.4%)
Two or three of the four above (please add a post saying which)
12 (34.3%)
Some of the above and one or more not listed (please add a post)
1 (2.9%)
One or more not listed (please add a post)
1 (2.9%)
I don't use my Z for browsing
1 (2.9%)

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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2006, 05:50:47 am »
That would be pretty amazing IMO, Dillo is pretty fast but with fltk it would be even faster, and I would love to use the latest version, there are quite a few changes in the latest version from the one we have compiled:
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dillo-0.8.6 [Apr 26, 2006]
 - * Designed and implemented a dpi protocol library (libDpip.a in /dpip).
   * Added a couple of new dpip commands.
   * Fixed and uniformed the escaping of values inside dpip tags.
   * Ported the bookmarks, download, file, https, ftp and hello plugins,
     plus the dpid daemon and the rest of the source tree to use it.
   * Improved the dpi buffer reception to handle split buffers (This was
     required for handling arbitrary data streams with dpip).
   * Fixed a bug in Cache_entry_remove_raw.
   * Added a couple of "const" and C++ wrappers to dpiutil's API.
   * Fixed a serious bug with the FTP plugin that led to two downloads of the
     same file when left-clicking a non-viewable file.
   * Added MIME/type detection to the FTP plugin, and removed popen().
   * Set the dpi daemon (dpid) not to exit when the downloads dpi is running.
   * Improved the accuracy of the illegal-character error reporting for URLs.
   * Now save dialog replaces %20 and ' ' with '_' in the Filename suggestion.
   * Made URL ADT automatically count and strip illegal characters from URLs.
   * Added dpi/downloads.cc (Default FLTK2-based GUI for downloads dpi).
   * Added "./configure --disable-dlgui" to build without FLTK2-GUI downloads.
   * Fixed dpip's tag syntax and its parsing to accept any value string.
   * Added DOCTYPE parsing (for better bug-meter error messages).
   * Added a DOCTYPE type declaration tag to dpi-generated HTML.
   * Fixed bookmarks dpi to escape ' in URLs and &<>"' in titles (BUG#655).
   * Added a check for malicious image sizes in IMG tags.
   * Made the parser aware of buggy pages with multiple BODY and HTML elements.
   * Fixed a bug in MIME content/type detection.
   * Check HTTP Content-Type against real data (a security procedure).
   Patches: Jorge Arellano
 - * Added a datauri dpi to handle "data:" URIs (RFC-2397).
   Patch: Jorge Arellano, Ben Wiley Sittler
 - * Moved the cookies management into a dpi server: cookies.dpi.
   * Removed the restriction of only one dillo with cookies enabled!
   * Fixed a bug with cookies for sites with self-signed certificate.
   * Updated the cookies documentation.
   * Made the downloads plugin dillo-cookie aware.
   * Ported the cookies dpi to libDpip.a.
   * Merged the new dpip code into the source tree.
   Patches: Diego Sáenz, Jorge Arellano
 - * Added "./configure --disable-threaded-dns" (for some non reentrant BSDs).
   Patch: Jorge Arellano, Francis Daly
 - * Fixed a bug with roman literals divisible by 10 (BUG#700).
   * Fixed a bug with long alphabetically ordered lists (BUG#704).
   Patch: Glyn Kennington
 - * Fixed a file descriptor leak in the dpi protocol library.
   * Fixed a subtle segfault bug with malformed URLs in cookies.c.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2006, 05:51:14 am by zi99y »

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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2006, 05:52:15 am »
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Bookmarking is fine for me,. CTRL+T open a new tab, CTRL+B to bring up the bookmarks and click the one... admittedly not like a drop down menu but easy to get used to....
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=147069\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Yes, but what about creating the bookmark in the first place?  I can't find any simple way to do that - and surely it needs to be as simple as 1 (or 2 at most!)  key presses.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=147155\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Right click > Add bookmark??

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« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2006, 09:51:26 am »
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Bookmarking is fine for me,. CTRL+T open a new tab, CTRL+B to bring up the bookmarks and click the one... admittedly not like a drop down menu but easy to get used to....
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=147069\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Yes, but what about creating the bookmark in the first place?  I can't find any simple way to do that - and surely it needs to be as simple as 1 (or 2 at most!)  key presses.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=147155\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Right click > Add bookmark??
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=147159\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Doh!  Thanks for that zi99y.
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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2006, 10:04:15 am »
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He prolly means... "HTTPS Auth"
It handles SSL (https) and "basic auth over SSL" as well.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

No, I mean HTTP Auth, which my version (0.8.6) certainly doesn't do!  It just returns a "401 Authorization Required".  If you have a version which does otherwise, I'd like it too!  Bug 224 in the dillo bug-track database reads:

Impact: soft error
At: run time
Type: misbehaviour
Comments: Authentication requests from a web server are ignored. Dillo displays the 401 return code page.
HTReproduce: Go to any web server requiring user/pass authentication.
WorkedBy: nobody

Perhaps you could access this page [a href=\"http://www.scl.co.uk/analog/]http://www.scl.co.uk/analog/[/url] with your dillo and tell me what happens.  If you get a username/password dialogue, then I'm wrong, and I'd love to be wrong ;-)
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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2006, 10:14:47 am »
I'm not online with my Z to check but can do later if noone else does it for you.

Do you have an ipk of Dillo 0.8.6 as all I can find is dillo-xft_0.8.5_arm.ipk or Dillo2 which is useless as it crashes, if you had an ipk I would love to try that out.

edit: And just for info I can login to the forums here fine, and use easynews login page, sure I've tried others too.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2006, 10:15:45 am by zi99y »

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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2006, 01:27:05 pm »
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Perhaps you could access this page http://www.scl.co.uk/analog/ with your dillo and tell me what happens.  If you get a username/password dialogue, then I'm wrong, and I'd love to be wrong ;-)
I haven't tried the above site but I use it on my own sites all the time and I can assure you it does work
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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2006, 02:21:14 pm »
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I'm not online with my Z to check but can do later if noone else does it for you.

Do you have an ipk of Dillo 0.8.6 as all I can find is dillo-xft_0.8.5_arm.ipk or Dillo2 which is useless as it crashes, if you had an ipk I would love to try that out.

edit: And just for info I can login to the forums here fine, and use easynews login page, sure I've tried others too.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=147168\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I just compiled Dillo 0.8.6 with the --disable-dlgui option, mostly because I thought it wanted FLTK and not FLTK2. I'll post it later. What does the download GUI do?
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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2006, 04:12:24 pm »
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I'm not online with my Z to check but can do later if noone else does it for you.

Do you have an ipk of Dillo 0.8.6 as all I can find is dillo-xft_0.8.5_arm.ipk or Dillo2 which is useless as it crashes, if you had an ipk I would love to try that out.

edit: And just for info I can login to the forums here fine, and use easynews login page, sure I've tried others too.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=147168\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I just compiled Dillo 0.8.6 with the --disable-dlgui option, mostly because I thought it wanted FLTK and not FLTK2. I'll post it later. What does the download GUI do?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=147180\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
No idea.... maybe it shows download options? a progress bar?

anyway... how is it, I'm dying to know.  (my last attempt at compiling a browser -minimo-on my Z didn't work out too well) better features? even faster?

Edit:  maybe a dl gui would be a good thing? a wanted alternate? Certainly the firelure of Firefox's dlgui caused a big commotion.... anyway looking forward to seeing the new version
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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2006, 05:19:06 pm »
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anyway... how is it, I'm dying to know.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=147188\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

See for yourself. It's in the new package thread.
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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2006, 07:24:02 pm »
it works.  I have to mess with the dillorc a bit-- tryto trim down the toolbar, mess with the fonts, etc.   It is gtk, though....  for a little while I thought you'd done a Z version of the efltk port...   nice to have updates either way, though.
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« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2006, 07:39:12 pm »
nice but bookmarks and downloads don't work. I think its to do with the build option you used.

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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2006, 10:14:05 pm »
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nice but bookmarks and downloads don't work. I think its to do with the build option you used.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=147201\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I'll recompile it with FLTK2 once I compile that. I have had some trouble with downloads, but right-clicking the link and saving it works in most cases.
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« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2006, 07:38:17 am »
I'd like to use Dillo, but it ha too strange/wrong rendering for the sites I use, and doesn't support js.

So, I actually use a bit of links-g, a good amount of konqueror - since it's faster than firefox and almost as compatible as firefox, and a bit of firefox for hard pages, or simply when I need its smarter shortcuts system. Before using konqueror, I used firefox

So:

konqueror, firefox, links-g.

(to use konqueror I instaled kda-base)


My wish is to have a smarter version of Dillo, or something like Opera, or Netfront, or GPEminiBrowser.

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« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2006, 05:40:11 am »
Dillo just doesn't do the job for me (no CSS, weird rendering, sometimes it's impossible to find something within a page because it's not  where you'd expect).
I bought the C1000 mainly because it supported wi-fi and could run Firefox, so I'd be able to browse the net on the go without lugging a laptop (basically I wanted a micro-laptop, that's why I chose pdaXrom). But I'm sad to find out it's not ready for that

I've been trying Firefox, but it crashes randomly. It segfaults with
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/usr/lib/firefox/lib/firefox-1.57run-mozilla.sh: line 131: XXXXX Segmentation fault "$prog" ${1+"$@"}(The XXXXX is a different number each time. Sometimes it says "Terminated" instead of "Segmentation fault").
I can't install xpi extensions either (goodbye to NoScript and Adblock+).

I don't care how slow it is, I can live with that, even with no extensions, but I need a browser that shows the pages as they are and doesn't crash. Besides, there's no Flash plugin support. I know Macromedia won't release Flash Player 9 for Linux, but at least Flash 8 should be supported...
Java? I haven't even dared to try that yet.

I had a Palm T|T which never let me down. It's been 5 years since I bought it, and still working flawlessly, but there were no usable browsers for it and no wi-fi, so I gave it away to a relative.
Now I'm seriously thinking of selling my C1000 unless I find a browser that does the job

What about Konqueror? Is it stable? How much space does it take, including libraries?
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« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2006, 06:17:07 am »
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Dillo just doesn't do the job for me (no CSS, weird rendering, sometimes it's impossible to find something within a page because it's not  where you'd expect).
I bought the C1000 mainly because it supported wi-fi and could run Firefox, so I'd be able to browse the net on the go without lugging a laptop (basically I wanted a micro-laptop, that's why I chose pdaXrom). But I'm sad to find out it's not ready for that

I've been trying Firefox, but it crashes randomly. It segfaults with
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/usr/lib/firefox/lib/firefox-1.57run-mozilla.sh: line 131: XXXXX Segmentation fault "$prog" ${1+"$@"}(The XXXXX is a different number each time. Sometimes it says "Terminated" instead of "Segmentation fault").
I can't install xpi extensions either (goodbye to NoScript and Adblock+).

I don't care how slow it is, I can live with that, even with no extensions, but I need a browser that shows the pages as they are and doesn't crash. Besides, there's no Flash plugin support. I know Macromedia won't release Flash Player 9 for Linux, but at least Flash 8 should be supported...
Java? I haven't even dared to try that yet.

I had a Palm T|T which never let me down. It's been 5 years since I bought it, and still working flawlessly, but there were no usable browsers for it and no wi-fi, so I gave it away to a relative.
Now I'm seriously thinking of selling my C1000 unless I find a browser that does the job

What about Konqueror? Is it stable? How much space does it take, including libraries?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=148074\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


its a bug in the startup shell script. i fixed it long time ago for my custom package but cannot remember which lines I had to comment out.
as for flash support use gplflash which has firefox plugin. i also compiled a java plugin which uses gnu classpath and jamvm
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