Zaurus Out Of Production?

[Snappy]

yeah warranty is a sham! I had to return some parts and they send me back some other faulty parts and even missed a few parts that I send them and still waiting for them to send the missing parts back. This been going on for almost 2 months!
Stay away from OQO, they have very bad quality control. If you ever need to return something, you are in for a very long trip and trial and error and sending back and fro many parts for many months... also their distributor expansys is also not the best out there. in addition to being bloody expensive, they are also very slow, just like OQO itself I guess. Those two make a nice pair, equally slow and expensive.. a real match made in hell...
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I've always had a bias view on expansys ... it didn't help to find their accessories over-priced!  ... I guess your experience and others help to cement their service level!

[Meanie]

hi Meanie,

may I ask what exactly broke on the OQO?
I'm not going to want one, I'm just curious.

daniel
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there are actually quite a few ergonomic problems with the OQO IMHO, but besides those, there are also many quality problems with manufacturing...
because of the extreme weather conditions here in Australia, actually Melbourne where the temperature varies from 12 degrees celcius to 28 degrees in autumn on a single day, the OQO developed cracks in its two antennaes on the sides. The OQO antannaoes are just plastic stripes attached to both sides of the OQO, but because of these extreme weather conditions (yeah rite), the plastic expanded and cracked when it shrank back to its original size. Even though the antennaes are cracked, they still work though, but I put sticky tape around them
Anyway, the battery is bloody heavy and it doesn't last long (max 3 hours) unless you use the double density battery which weights double as much...
My charger died and after about a month I received a replacement charger. This new charger can charge the battery fine by itself, but locks up the OQO so you cannot have the OQO plugged into the mains and use it while it is charging... still waiting on a word on whether I will get another replacement charger. anyway, because of that, the OQO has been collecting dust for 2 months now....

[adf]

on the other hand, if the oqo was as good as the initial hype we might have had have less of your time here, I find this tempoers my sympathy

[Da_Blitz]

any opinions on the OQO2, it looks to be a nicly built unit. first thing ill be doing is dumping windows on the machine for somthing a bit better

also on the warantee issue, ive talked to some sales reps at comercial places and they tell me the love extended warinties as its pure profit for them and dosent cost them anything at all (mainly due to problems comming out in the first 3 months and the last 3 months of a products lifetime, see "the product life cycle) so keep it in mind

not to mention i dont think i have a device that has had a warnetee for more than 1 hour of me getting it home, i get alot of questions when i tell peopple what my stuff does

ME: and so as you can see it plays mp3s, records TV skips ads and cures cancer in its spare time
Them: but that wasent in the ad
ME: well thats because i <wink wink nudge nudge> "upgraded" </wink wink nudge nudge> it
them: i didnt know the manufacturer put out an upgrade to do that
ME: ....

[speculatrix]

any opinions on the OQO2, it looks to be a nicly built unit. first thing ill be doing is dumping windows on the machine for somthing a bit better
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from what Meanie says, the quality control and basic design of the OQO was very poor, so I would doubt that its successor is going to be perfect (probably a lot better but they have a long way to go).

for the price there are some nice UMPCs about (the Sony things look good, and conics have a few 2nd hand ones at good prices), and the number of tablets is increasing too, take a look at this one: [a href=\"http://www.internettablettalk.com/2007/02/05/a-maemo-ized-umpc/]http://www.internettablettalk.com/2007/02/...aemo-ized-umpc/[/url]

[Da_Blitz]

saw that one, waiting for someone to mention it:)

seems there are alot of arm bassed umpc style offerings coming up. funny that this should happen as i dont see the x86 as the best choice in this enviroment (they list a 4000mah battery which would be nice, wonder how that would stretch on a 15W via vs a 2 watt arm chip)

[speculatrix]

saw that one, waiting for someone to mention it:)

The Register had an article about how Intel are proposing to replace their Arm/XScale devices with x86 system on chip (SoC):
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/02/05/in...eadies_x86_soc/

they say it only takes 22W. At 5V that's over four amps, so you'd need a 4000mAh battery purely for one hour of full use, which means it ain't gonna be a PDA or even a small handheld like the Z!

I think that Arm processor plus accelerator chips is the best or even only way to get the performance/power ratio.

[Da_Blitz]

well your looking at more like 1.7v max and about 1.3v most of the time (assuming that the proc just dosent regulate it itself)

x86 in its current intel form is a death wish, it requires bridge chips and such as its a microprocessor not a microcontroller so it desnt have the IO built in and requires the bridge chips, works well if you upgrade your cpu all the time but not for a static design

i dont know, via seems to be better off in this arena as well as the 486 clones. they mention embedding the pentium M products but if they are thinking about that then they are missing the point. 25W is alot of heat, and while 2Ghz is nice you dont really need that much performance in most devices

i cant see what area they are targetting if they procede. perhaps the umpc market as the 22W was a maximum but look at the pa-semi anouncment today. 25W max draw with 2x10GBe, 4x1GBe, dual independent DDR controllers and 2 64bit power PC cores at up to 2GHz. i dont know how intel can compete with that. if you wanted to build a routor this thing has tones more IO potential than the pentium M, at full capacity i have no dought this thing would choke but it would choke alot latter than the intel as it dosent have to worry about choking its FSB

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[ZDevil]

Just curious. Has anyone actually seen Sharp's EOL announcement? I've tried to search ezaurus.com but can't find it.  

[Cresho]

No official news so far.

[HoloVector]

I'm pretty sure they won't make a public announcement until the exiting Zaurus stocks are closer to depleted otherwise they might take too much of a loss on the current stock.  I'm guessing it will be a month or two.

[Ragnorok]

- (sniffle)
- I have bad PDA Karma.  First the Psion and now the Z.  Depressing.

[fpp]

Same here, but I added one more : I also have a Nokia 770 :-)

[ArchiMark]

And I just added a N800 yesterday....

 

[speculatrix]

Same here, but I added one more : I also have a Nokia 770 :-)
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don't you dare buy an N800 and ruin that too :-)

seriously for a second, I think that we have to be realistic and accept that computer stuff quickly becomes obsolete, and if you're a late adopter of a "cult" product which doesn't gain mass market acceptance, you're going to have to hope there's a good community around the device.

I mean, at least we didn't buy Sony Mylos, right?