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daniel3000

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Which Newer Nokia Phone For Ka/pi Phone Export?
« on: January 22, 2007, 02:55:05 pm »
Hello,

I'm currently using a Nokia 6310 for private communications and export successfully data with KA/PI to that phone via IrDA.

For business, I have a Siemens SK65, which is NOT compatible. It does not support the AT commands for phone book writing, which are used by KA/PI / kammu.
So I will have to switch to another phone. Probably another Nokia would be the way to go.

Which newer Nokia phone is compatible enough to also be filled with almost 500 contact records from KA/PI?
It would be ideal if also the following things would work ith this phone, but only KA/PI data export via IrDA is mandatory:

* KO/PI data export via IrDA
* GPRS internet connections via the PPP dialer in pdaXrom via IrDA
* KA/PI and KO/PI full syncronization
* Everyting not only via IrDA but also via Bluetooth  

Thank you for any hint.

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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2007, 04:05:11 pm »
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I'm currently using a Nokia 6310 for private communications and export successfully data with KA/PI to that phone via IrDA.
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I too have a 6310i and am finding it hard to replace... I'd want quad (6310i is tri-) band GSM *and* 3G (UMTS2100 in the UK), plus bluetooth, plus if possible wifi (I'd want a wifi voip feature), and yet not be a monstrous smartphone!

So far my favourites would be Nokia N75 - no wifi, but there doesn't seem to be anything else.
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The E70 looks kind of nice, but is only tri-band but adds wifi.

GSM Arena and http://www.infosyncworld.com/ are the two sites I use for definitive specs on a phone.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2007, 04:27:59 pm »
Hi Daniel,

wait a bit and get a Neo1973:
Openmoko

I wouldn't wonder if it runs KA/PI KA/PI soon...
And you'll have the first fully OpenSource phone.

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2007, 03:34:13 am »
Hi Marc,

I confirm this is a very interesting project, but I didn't intend to buy a really new phone. Actually a Nokia 6310 is fully sufficient for me, I just would prefer a phone as small as possible and with the above listed features. I am not even sure if the 6310 already supports all that stuff over bluetooth, which it also supports via IrDA.
GPRS connections are not a problem via Bluetooth, I do it all the time.
But KDEPIM/PI sync is said to be a problem... maybe due to kammu not supporting Bluetooth connections? Or is it the phone which prevents this?

I will certainly have a look at the Neo, but for now I need an instantly working, reliable sulution.

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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2007, 07:52:38 am »
hi all,
I got a N70 (Nokia Symbian phone) and tried several times to sync with Ko/Pi via BT (no irda).

I tried to setup a BT profile (and connect to it before launching Ko/Pi) via an OBEX profile in the phone and the DUN (modem?) one. Each times Ko/Pi do not success to sync with the phone.

I found somewhere a how-to to sync via Irda, but truly, it seems very difficult via BT. May be a Z guru can look at this matter ?

BTW, the dun connection to access to the Internet through the Phone or file transfer between the Z and the N70 is working via BT.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2007, 11:22:24 am »
I was wondering whether anyone have any further input on this. I'm particularly interested in keeping the "Contacts" on an S60v3 phone in sync with kapi. Simple export/import via vcf loses info in both directions. Ideally I would like both the phone and kapi to ignore, but keep, the info it doesn't know how to handle.
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2007, 04:32:44 pm »
which info are you loosing with vcf import/export ?
i've just tried importing my own vcf card (exported from my nokia 6630) into ka/pi and all infos seems to be there. (i'm still a bit surprised !)

little problem:
how to import ALL vcf cards into ka/pi ???
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2007, 01:06:03 am »
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i've just tried importing my own vcf card (exported from my nokia 6630) into ka/pi and all infos seems to be there. (i'm still a bit surprised !)
But the 6630 is not S60v3, so maybe the info fields are different? Anyway with S60v3 there are nearly 60 info fields.

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which info are you loosing with vcf import/export ?
I made a test contact with all the fields filled in then imported into kapi,

here are some of the fields that don't get imported correctly (and what they probably should get mapped to in kapi)

Job Title (Details > Profession)
Nickname (Details > Nick name)
Internet telephone (General > VOIP)
SIP (General > SIP)


here are some fields that don't have an equivalent in kapi

DTMF
Push to talk
Share view


And if you have more than one Notes field, kapi will only use the last one.

Lastly, my favourite feature - the thumbnails - don't get imported (kapi uses png, nokia uses jpg).

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little problem:
how to import ALL vcf cards into ka/pi ???
Not sure what you mean by this question. What I did to export all contacts on phone to vcf was install Python for S60 (http://sourceforge.net/projects/pys60) then use this program:
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import contacts
my_contacts = contacts.open()
output = open(u'e:\\others\contacts.vcards', 'w')
output.write(my_contacts.export_vcards(my_contacts.keys()))
output.close()

If you have a bunch of *.vcf files that you want to import into kapi, you can join them into one single file then import. Something like this would automate joining the *.vcf:

Code: [Select]
#!/bin/bash

for file in `ls *.vcf`; do
        cat $file >> all.vcards
done
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2007, 09:19:25 am »
desertrat,
thanks for your little import script ! it worked just perfecly ! i imported the "all.vcards" file into kapi and voila! all my contacts are now in kapi!


to export from my nokia is just simple : in contact list, just select all contacts then go to the menu "copy/to memory card". then all contacts are transfered as vcf info a memory card directory
on the phone, the reversed operation is possible too (import/from memory card)
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