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« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2007, 01:36:33 pm »
Is the version for the Nokia 770 updated too ?...

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« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2007, 03:07:31 pm »
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I wonder why the Akita only gets the console image and not the X11 image like Spitz and c7x0?
FYI: There seems to be a X11 test image in there now.
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« Reply #47 on: March 31, 2007, 03:12:27 pm »
hi
i've grabbed all files from angstrom unstable feed, put them on a sdcard and i would like to modify ipkg.conf to look inside the directory of the sd...
simple but if fails.... what is the correct syntax of ipkg.conf for a directory???

i tried:
feedsd file:/media/card/feed
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« Reply #48 on: March 31, 2007, 04:06:42 pm »
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« Reply #49 on: March 31, 2007, 04:30:32 pm »
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feedsd file:///mnt/card/feed[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157684\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

it was the first i tried and it didn't work either..
i'll try again with latest 20070331 build of angstrom

looking in the bugs page (http://bugs.openembedded.org/) it seems some have their bluetooth cf card working with some tweaking. i'd to try
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« Reply #50 on: April 01, 2007, 04:08:40 am »
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feedsd file:///mnt/card/feed[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157684\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

it was the first i tried and it didn't work either..
i'll try again with latest 20070331 build of angstrom

looking in the bugs page (http://bugs.openembedded.org/) it seems some have their bluetooth cf card working with some tweaking. i'd to try
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157685\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Note that you don't have to reflash to 'update' to a newer snapshot. 'ipkg update ; ipkg upgrade' is enough. It's also a good idea to upgrade before filing a bug, since people are uploading fixed packages all the time.
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« Reply #51 on: April 01, 2007, 09:22:13 am »
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Note that you don't have to reflash to 'update' to a newer snapshot. 'ipkg update ; ipkg upgrade' is enough. It's also a good idea to upgrade before filing a bug, since people are uploading fixed packages all the time.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157718\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

great!
would you give us how far from the stable version is the actual realease (specially for spitz;) ? it 'd be great to have a current state
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« Reply #52 on: April 01, 2007, 09:54:14 am »
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Note that you don't have to reflash to 'update' to a newer snapshot. 'ipkg update ; ipkg upgrade' is enough. It's also a good idea to upgrade before filing a bug, since people are uploading fixed packages all the time.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157718\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

great!
would you give us how far from the stable version is the actual realease (specially for spitz;) ? it 'd be great to have a current state
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157729\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I'm waiting for the OZ people to decide if they are going to do a OZ release or not. If not, angstrom will go in release mode and only fix bugs and not add new features. If they do decide to do a release angstrom will go into release mode after the OZ release hits the streets.
To answer your original question: It's stable, but unpolished. The images contain a barebones systems where you can install your favourite apps from the preconfigured feeds.

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 13:51:43 up 11 days, 23:40,  4 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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« Reply #53 on: April 02, 2007, 06:22:57 am »
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feedsd file:///mnt/card/feed[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157684\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


i find the correct syntax:


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src/gz filesd file:///media/card/angstrom/feed


now it works!
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« Reply #54 on: April 02, 2007, 10:10:25 pm »
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feedsd file:///mnt/card/feed[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157684\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

it was the first i tried and it didn't work either..
i'll try again with latest 20070331 build of angstrom

looking in the bugs page (http://bugs.openembedded.org/) it seems some have their bluetooth cf card working with some tweaking. i'd to try
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157685\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Note that you don't have to reflash to 'update' to a newer snapshot. 'ipkg update ; ipkg upgrade' is enough. It's also a good idea to upgrade before filing a bug, since people are uploading fixed packages all the time.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=157718\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
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« Reply #55 on: April 22, 2007, 06:50:56 am »
I am a bit confused: under  http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unsta.../c7x0/20070401/
there are many different image files. Which one is that?
I am trying to use uboot
The installation instructions on the Angstrom site says different things from what are in the feed.
Also i am trying to access the wiki and bitbake manual. Both are down.
The OE User Manual is also incomplete (the PDF is only 15 pages with many sections empty).
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« Reply #56 on: April 22, 2007, 08:28:58 am »
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I am a bit confused: under  http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unsta.../c7x0/20070401/
there are many different image files. Which one is that?
I am trying to use uboot
The installation instructions on the Angstrom site says different things from what are in the feed.
Also i am trying to access the wiki and bitbake manual. Both are down.
The OE User Manual is also incomplete (the PDF is only 15 pages with many sections empty).
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=159504\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Angstrom-console-image-test-20070401-c7x0.rootfs.ext2 == console-image-c7x0.ext2
Angstrom-console-image-test-20070401-c7x0.rootfs.jffs2 == console-image-c7x0.jffs2
Angstrom-console-image-test-20070401-c7x0.rootfs.summary.jffs2
Angstrom-console-image-test-20070401-c7x0.rootfs.tar.gz == console-image-c7x0.tar.gz

Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070402-c7x0.rootfs.ext2 == x11-image-c7x0.ext2
Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070402-c7x0.rootfs.jffs2 == x11-image-c7x0.jffs2
Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070402-c7x0.rootfs.summary.jffs2
Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070402-c7x0.rootfs.tar.gz == x11-image-c7x0.tar.gz

modules-2.6.20-c7x0.tgz
updater.sh.c7x0
zImage-2.6.20-c7x0-20070330105240.bin == zImage-c7x0.bin

1. rename updater.sh.c7x0 to updater.sh
2. rename zImage-c7x0.bin to zImage.bin
3. rename any jffs2 file to initrd.bin
4. put updater.sh, zImage.bin, initrd.bin at the root of a vfat SD or CF card and flash away

btw, I guess the duplicated packages are for internal house-keeping convenience. I have no idea about *.summary.jffs2
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« Reply #57 on: April 23, 2007, 03:14:06 am »
Thanks!

Created a uboot image and flashed and tried to boot with the pdaXrom bootloader. No go.
Just flashed anew into the 20070422 build.
Initial impression: it's quite neat.
The setup tools can load now, unlike the 20070401 build.
Just curious: what's the use of the "modules-2.6.20(.6)-c7x0.tgz"? It's not mentioned in the documentation.
Need to play further. Never tried OZ before.
Just wanna feel what it is, compared to pdaXrom.  

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« Reply #58 on: April 23, 2007, 06:49:35 am »
*** My initial comments of the latest 20070422 build of Angstrom (purely from a non-technical, non-power user perspective) ***

Here are some very very superficial unorganized remarks. I am completely new to OE systems and OZ, so pardon me for my ignorance and shallow understanding.

1) Installation
Installation is done in a breeze. Just the usual OK mode flashing.

2) Upgradability
A very cool thing is like Sharp rom, upgrading won't wipe the flash clean; the base system and settings are intact, unlike pdaX ... #angry

3) Non-root user setup
Upon the first boot, there is a non-root user account setup page. That's great. I can always use root to do things in the "Root shell".

4) General feel
Overall speed and responsiveness are both good.

5) Interface
The GPE interface is neat, although some windows and menus are too small to see. But I suppose there are ways to change them.

6) Screen rotate
Screen rotate works very well.

7) System utilities
The complete set of system setting utilities:
Date/Time setup, Login setup, Look and Feel, Network setup, Network shield (firewalling), Owner Information, PC/CF Cards (card manager), Keys and Buttons (to assign the big application keys and [1]~[4]), Package Manager, Panel Manager, Serial Ports (with Console and even GPS settings!!), Sleep Config, Sound Settings, USB Settings (ethernet, storage, serial port modes), User Access, User Manager, Screen Setup.  
Things are very complete and right in place.

8) Suspend/resume
Suspend/resume work very well.

9) Power consumption
Battery seems to last much longer than r197.

10) Package Manger
The Package Manager is ready to go with preset feeds. (How come have the pdaX devs never changed the unusable feed locations? #um1  )

11) Taskbar
The taskbar applets (not much different from the matchbox applets in pdaX) seem working.
The taskbar can be hidden, leaving a slender bar at the bottom; tapping it will call up the taskbar again, just like in XFCE. Matchbox should have this.

12) Feeds
The feed(s) looks huge and quite adequate for basic use.
The base system is of the "vanilla" kind; I need more time to test it with other packages I use in pdaXrom.
Still not certain about the compatibility of the packages: can Angstrom use Sharp rom and Opie packages?


*** Things i am looking forward to seeing ***
1) Chinese support!!
Very important to me and all Chinese users: Chinese support.
I have yet to figure out how to add fonts and inputmethods. But there are already quite a number of Chinese locales in the feeds, so i suspect using Chinese shouldn't be impossible.

2) Keymapping
There should be an easy way to config/remap the keys. Still looking into the keymap files in /etc/X11/.  The Menu key is not mapped to open up the Main Menu; the "/" key is by default ",", which is not very handy

3) Connectivity
My Symbol Spectrum24 Cf Wifi card is automatically detected and loaded with eth0. Nice. But i have yet to set up a wireless connection yet as dhcpcd seems missing, or maybe it's in some extar package.
I will also try my seldomly used Anycom bluetooth CF on it.

4) Development environment
Native toolchain and compilation environment: clear instructions, pointers, examples, how-tos, packaging guides.

5) Documentation
A set of full-blown documentation and new user walkthrough are as important as the system itself.

That's that for now. Will keep exploring a bit and add more for sure.
I have grown tired of tweaking and hacking so much just to get a basically usable system. I am just an ordinary user and have my holy real life. What i want is usability, stability and productivity, and i am not of the type who take great pride in my geeky ego.

Anyhow, thanks to the OE and OZ people for the efforts.
Angstrom seems to have come a long way.

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« Reply #59 on: April 23, 2007, 09:11:14 am »
Just recalled that Meanie's has written two great articles related to OZ

Alternate Distros:
http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/distros.html

Customizing OZ:
http://www.users.on.net/~hluc/myZaurus/custom-oz.html

They were written on OZ 3.5.4.1. I would like to see how many things discussed there are improved in Angstrom, if i have enough leisure time to play with it ...  

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