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radiochickenwax

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« on: March 10, 2007, 12:28:17 pm »
I didn't want the "New Packages Thread" to become a discussion for this if possible... unless it's clear we're going to abandon it.

For me, the thread is serving it's purpose nicely.  I sometimes have troubles with the search function on this forum;  it occassionally fails for no apparent reason, so a single thread is a little cumbersome, but not that bad compared to searching.


Alternatively, the new pdaxrom site is up.  How far away are we from submitting packages to it?  What about the tyrannozaurus "everyone" feeds?  Any ideas?


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Would people mind mentioning which release has been used when compiling - it's evident most r121 packages will not run in beta 3 so it will save us time and the forums bandwidth if we knew.

thanks!
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I am wondering if folks would not be better served by a standard post rather than a single thread. For example:

Subject: NPA: Debbie Does Zaurus

Package: ddz
Priority: optional
Section: Games
Maintainer: Debbie
Architecture: armv5tel
Version: 2.4.4-2
Depends: libbodyparts, libpositions, libunderwear, libcleaningsupplies
Package: ddz_2.4.4-2_armv5tel.ipk
Size: 4971788
MD5Sum: bf0efbf716cc6fc113912ecb2778971d
Description: Debbie Does Zaurus is a fun game in which a small town girl falls in love with a handheld device.

Then folks could discuss any issues with the package in that thread. You could search for them all with NPA: The NPA: posts could be placed in at least the appropriate folders for the ROMs they were built for. Just a thought. If we ever get any traffic at the new site, maybe that is the way we can do it there.
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For what it's worth, everything I've compiled thus far runs on beta1 through rc179.  I haven't really had too big of a problem between beta1 and rc121+ yet.
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2007, 06:11:16 pm »
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I didn't want the "New Packages Thread" to become a discussion for this if possible... unless it's clear we're going to abandon it.

For me, the thread is serving it's purpose nicely.  I sometimes have troubles with the search function on this forum;  it occassionally fails for no apparent reason, so a single thread is a little cumbersome, but not that bad compared to searching.


Alternatively, the new pdaxrom site is up.  How far away are we from submitting packages to it?  What about the tyrannozaurus "everyone" feeds?  Any ideas?


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Would people mind mentioning which release has been used when compiling - it's evident most r121 packages will not run in beta 3 so it will save us time and the forums bandwidth if we knew.

thanks!
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Often asked:

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I am wondering if folks would not be better served by a standard post rather than a single thread. For example:

Subject: NPA: Debbie Does Zaurus

Package: ddz
Priority: optional
Section: Games
Maintainer: Debbie
Architecture: armv5tel
Version: 2.4.4-2
Depends: libbodyparts, libpositions, libunderwear, libcleaningsupplies
Package: ddz_2.4.4-2_armv5tel.ipk
Size: 4971788
MD5Sum: bf0efbf716cc6fc113912ecb2778971d
Description: Debbie Does Zaurus is a fun game in which a small town girl falls in love with a handheld device.

Then folks could discuss any issues with the package in that thread. You could search for them all with NPA: The NPA: posts could be placed in at least the appropriate folders for the ROMs they were built for. Just a thought. If we ever get any traffic at the new site, maybe that is the way we can do it there.
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For what it's worth, everything I've compiled thus far runs on beta1 through rc179.  I haven't really had too big of a problem between beta1 and rc121+ yet.
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i think we should rename the current "new packages" thread "new packages classic" and dedicate it to beta1/beta3 compatible packages only and create a new "new packages" thread for r121+
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2007, 08:18:14 pm »
Or close the current one, since it's a mixed bag of 2.4 and 2.6 packages. Make a new thread for each.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2007, 10:30:34 pm »
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Or close the current one, since it's a mixed bag of 2.4 and 2.6 packages. Make a new thread for each.
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How about housing packages in a feed?

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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2007, 07:11:59 am »
Still it would be nice to let people know what has been added to the feed.
How about:
1) still using 1 (or 2) package announcement threads, but it is purely for "announcement", to be posted by those who build them. The packages are directly linked to the feeds.
2) All questions, qualms, bugs, issues, praise .... etc should go to individual topics.
3) For those packages which even the packager doesn't even know whether they are stable/usable/functional or not, there should be separate topics asking people to try them out and test them.

My 2 cents.

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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2007, 01:27:18 am »
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Or close the current one, since it's a mixed bag of 2.4 and 2.6 packages. Make a new thread for each.
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Not a clear enough distinction. I've tested my Gngeo package on beta3, beta4 and r121 without issues. Covers both kernels.

Actually, I think the only time the kernel version is an issue is when you're dealing with kernel modules, or base libraries like BlueZ.

I'm in favor of the classic/r121+ split, though since Pdaxii13 isn't exactly old, it might need a different name.

For that matter (sorta OT, ignore if you will) is Pdaxii13 different enough to call it a separate distro?
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2007, 01:39:06 am »
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Or close the current one, since it's a mixed bag of 2.4 and 2.6 packages. Make a new thread for each.
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Not a clear enough distinction. I've tested my Gngeo package on beta3, beta4 and r121 without issues. Covers both kernels.

Actually, I think the only time the kernel version is an issue is when you're dealing with kernel modules, or base libraries like BlueZ.

I'm in favor of the classic/r121+ split, though since Pdaxii13 isn't exactly old, it might need a different name.

For that matter (sorta OT, ignore if you will) is Pdaxii13 different enough to call it a separate distro?
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actually, beside the kernel differences, there is also the difference in glibc/gnome/gtk. depending on the requirements of the apps, some apps will run happily on all versions of pdaXrom since they aren't using any of the newer libs or using only the older methods in the newer libs, however, some apps which are utilizing the newer functions, will get relocation errors...

as for whether pdaXii13 is a separate distro, I see it this way. Sharp ROM has a polished up version called Cacko, OZ has a polished up version called Hentges and pdaXrom has a polished up version called pdaXii13
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2007, 04:14:03 am »
My impression is most games just run regardless of the versions of pdaX, if they are using SDL, not the latest version of gtk, or simply X11.

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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2007, 04:38:07 pm »
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Or close the current one, since it's a mixed bag of 2.4 and 2.6 packages. Make a new thread for each.
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How about housing packages in a feed?

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Any time frame on getting the community feeds back up on the new pdaxrom page?
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thinking about gumstix to replace/augment zaurus