Author Topic: Garnet Vm For Zaurus? (Read 4493 times)

Snappy · « **on:** November 13, 2007, 09:28:59 pm »

http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/index.html

Since it runs on Nokia Nseries InternetTablet ... what about on a Z?

Capn_Fish · « **Reply #1 on:** November 13, 2007, 09:48:18 pm »

It appears to be binary-only for the Nokia tablets, and, IIRC, those binaries don't work on the Z due to the Nokia being arm9 and the Z being arm5 (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong).

nilch · « **Reply #2 on:** November 14, 2007, 12:58:57 pm »

Can't imagine a Z-ite to be interested in Palm apps (or Garnet).
I mean, seriosuly who would consider running 320xwhatever apps on a 800x600 screen, and that too from Palm ?

Palm IS dead, as far as tech-interest is concerned.

Cyberdoc1971 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 14, 2007, 02:23:38 pm »

The thing to consider is the thousands of Palm apps out there. Personally I don't think of how fast or hi-rez the hardware is, but how it's used for everything we use it for, no pun intended.

Hrw · « **Reply #4 on:** November 14, 2007, 05:00:36 pm »

Zaurus machines are armv5te, Nokia 770 is also armv5te, N8x0 are armv6 but I do not know does Nokia use armv6 at all.

Hrw · « **Reply #5 on:** November 14, 2007, 05:00:53 pm »

Zaurus machines are armv5te, Nokia 770 is also armv5te, N8x0 are armv6 but I do not know does Nokia use armv6 at all.

nilch · « **Reply #6 on:** November 14, 2007, 05:00:58 pm »

Of course - apart from Apps, PALM is not relevant in any way now.
But even for the apps - as a VM, the palsm apps can't really talk to the other Nokia apps in any way. They are sandboxed in their own VM space. That takes away a lot from the advantage I think.

But again - I never used Palm apps so much - so maybe I don't see the advantage pf getting them old-dear-loved-apps back in any form or shape, and can't appreciate the value-add, if any.

And while any hardware is indeed about how you use it - I think Palm has failed to leverage the newer hardware specs (better screens, better resolutions, processor power etc) to make the Palm platform more versatile (and useful). Ultimately that has been the reason for Palm's demise.
(and to prove the point - the Garnet VM does not use the hardware potential of the Nokia tablet at all. It still runs in its
320x something screen and does not stretch to the full screen size of the Nokia tablet).

Cyberdoc1971 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 14, 2007, 05:08:09 pm »

Quote from: nilch

Of course - apart from Apps, PALM is not relevant in any way now.
But even for the apps - as a VM, the palsm apps can't really talk to the other Nokia apps in any way. They are sandboxed in their own VM space. That takes away a lot from the advantage I think.

But again - I never used Palm apps so much - so maybe I don't see the advantage pf getting them old-dear-loved-apps back in any form or shape, and can't appreciate the value-add, if any.

And while any hardware is indeed about how you use it - I think Palm has failed to leverage the newer hardware specs (better screens, better resolutions, processor power etc) to make the Palm platform more versatile (and useful). Ultimately that has been the reason for Palm's demise.
(and to prove the point - the Garnet VM does not use the hardware potential of the Nokia tablet at all. It still runs in its
320x something screen and does not stretch to the full screen size of the Nokia tablet).

Demise??? You are talking like someone has nailed the last nail in Palm's coffin. I don't see them dead in the water, in fact I see them trying to re-invent themselves for the better, even with the setbacks they have had, umm...I seem to remember with Jeff Hawkins assistance, they defined what a smartphone is.

nilch · « **Reply #8 on:** November 14, 2007, 08:19:03 pm »

Yeah, I do agree that I overplayed the DEAD factor there ... of course I am definite we will see Palm back - sometime, if ever.
But for now it is as good as dead - they haven't been able to release anything (software wise - with or without Access) for God knows how long.

And hardware wise, trying just isnt as good as getting there - not yet.
But you have to agree that compared to the Palm of yore, Palm today seems like a spent force - hope it comes back - good for competition always.

Anyways, we digressed - hope this Garnet VM is a demo for better things to come from Palm - on Linux platform, that has been promised for so long.

desertrat · « **Reply #9 on:** November 15, 2007, 10:37:30 am »

Quote from: Cyberdoc1971

...I seem to remember with Jeff Hawkins assistance, they defined what a smartphone is.

That sounds like a very US-centric view of the world. Whilst Palm was busy "defining what a smartphone is" the rest of the world were busy actually using smartphones

speculatrix · « **Reply #10 on:** November 15, 2007, 05:02:52 pm »

I am going to be trying out the palm emulator on n770 as soon as possible; although in theory according to HRW I can copy the binary to the Z, I think it will be quite difficult to get all the libraries etc in place to allow it to run.

As an appliance the Palm is excellent, easy to learn and with no active development going on, you never have to learn anything new

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