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PeterL

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« on: July 17, 2011, 05:17:28 am »
Hi,

First of all, apologies for my bad manners in cross-posting this message here after posting it in the Cxx0 General forum as well. I saw that that forum isn't very active at all, so I decided to take a bet and to repost it here, as this is the most active forum.

In 2003, I bought my C860 as an aid in my Japanese studies. I stayed with the original Sharp ROM and installed kanjidic + a few dictionaries. With its recognition of kanji written on screen, it was a dream dictionary. However, a few years later, I hardly had anything to do with Japan anymore and reflashed the ROM to some sort of Linux. It boots and gives me a login prompt. I can log in as root without a password, but I don“t know which ROM or version it is.

I'd like to flash it back to something similar to what I had before. The only requirements are: a good dictionary (extendible with more edict files), recognition of hand written kanji. I don't require networking, X, whatever in particular. Just give me back the greatest Japanese-English dictionary on earth

Any recommendations on which ROM to flash with ? I can find the right application soft myself after that, if standard Zaurus apps work on that ROM.

Thanks in advance,


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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2011, 10:38:08 am »
What kind of Kanji recognition do you need ?

Do you want to edit text or is it only the dictionary function that you need ? Would you be happy to use the Sharp ROM with NihongoNirvana http://nihongonirvana.sourceforge.net/kani1/kani.html ?
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2011, 03:08:40 pm »
Hi Koan,

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What kind of Kanji recognition do you need ?

Do you want to edit text or is it only the dictionary function that you need ? Would you be happy to use the Sharp ROM with NihongoNirvana http://nihongonirvana.sourceforge.net/kani1/kani.html ?

The Sharp ROM has excellent built-in kanji recognition that works in any program, so also for editing text. I think I tried NihongoNirvana (wasn't it called KanjiNirvana before ?), but the built-in recognition was just so much better. So I'm not looking for an additional program that implements kanji recognition, I'm looking for a ROM that has the algorithms from the Sharp ROM.

As I explained, I currently don't have the Sharp ROM on my C860 any more. If somebody has that image and if it's allowed to distribute it, then I would be glad to just return to its original image.

Thanks,


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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2011, 04:45:30 pm »
Backup ROM files are still available due to the kindness of Trisoft, see http://www.trisoft.de/en_c860howto.htm

I think your only choice is to use the Sharp ROM, however, you could transfer the input method plugin to the Cacko ROM by installing the Sharp ROM and copying it. You should be able to find the plugin in /home/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods - one of the .so files.

Yes, NihongoNirvana was formerly known as KanjiNirvana.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2011, 06:46:11 pm »
Hello koan,

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Backup ROM files are still available due to the kindness of Trisoft, see http://www.trisoft.de/en_c860howto.htm

I was looking at those and I was looking at Cacko, but I had a really hard time getting anything started at all. It turns out I had pdaXrom beta 4 installed, which uses U-Boot, which gave me a hard time flashing to anything else. None of the usual keyboard shortcuts worked: holding OK brought me to the U-Boot emergency prompt and anything else just booted the pdaXrom. After some time, I figured out FN-D-M still worked.

Things weren't helped by the fact that I was trying to use a 4GB CF. I had to first reformat the card FAT16 (a 150MB partition, for example), then put the systc860.dbk file onto it before the NAND flasher wanted to recognise it. I have now reflashed with the Trisoft NAND and I'll be restoring their Japanese backup soon.


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I think your only choice is to use the Sharp ROM, however, you could transfer the input method plugin to the Cacko ROM by installing the Sharp ROM and copying it. You should be able to find the plugin in /home/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods - one of the .so files.

I found the sticky thread about making Cacko Japanese with the original input methods and everything... it sounds great, I'll be giving it a try. Good to know the Trisoft site has those backups just in case.

By the way, I noticed one of the files mentioned in the stickies is now missing: japanese-support-c1k_&_c860_1.23_supplementary.zip. Any idea if anybody still has it laying around ?

Thanks a lot,


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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2011, 05:25:50 am »
Oh, another point. I can install the NAND images from the Trisoft website, but all the files including the backups have been translated, so Japanese doesn't work. Are there also Japanese NANDs around ?  Otherwise, I'll try the Cacko JP conversion.


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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2011, 05:42:47 am »
http://katastrophos.net/zaurus/mirrors/cacko/ hopefully has all that is needed.

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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 06:35:14 am »
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Oh, another point. I can install the NAND images from the Trisoft website, but all the files including the backups have been translated, so Japanese doesn't work.

Probably you just need to set the locale back to ja, https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Locali...ting_to_English
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