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« on: May 27, 2018, 09:51:41 am »
Hi people,

just got my Gemini in from the second batch and it seems that the device has very weak wifi/bluetooth range. The bluetooth needs to be in direct line of sight and less than 2 meters. The wifi also needs to be within a 5m proximity of the router. Is this is normal or have I got a special device?

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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2018, 10:21:18 am »
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Hi people,

just got my Gemini in from the second batch and it seems that the device has very weak wifi/bluetooth range. The bluetooth needs to be in direct line of sight and less than 2 meters. The wifi also needs to be within a 5m proximity of the router. Is this is normal or have I got a special device?

Andy

Hello, Andy.

I have not tested Bluetooth yet, but my WiFi reception is on par with any of my phones. Sorry you are having issues...

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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2018, 10:59:16 am »
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Hi people,

just got my Gemini in from the second batch and it seems that the device has very weak wifi/bluetooth range. The bluetooth needs to be in direct line of sight and less than 2 meters. The wifi also needs to be within a 5m proximity of the router. Is this is normal or have I got a special device?

Andy

I have the same problem wifi receiption is very weak compared to my other devices. Sometimes wifi is not possible at all where my other devices have good signal.
Yesterday I tried to connect my Asus watch without succes, the device was found but connection could no be made.After that I connect my headphone succesfully at a distance of 10cm. Connection was lost again at 20 cm, even moving the phone before my head resulted in disconnections. This headphone works fine with my HTC phone up to 8 mtr and through a wall.
If other people can confirmhere that they have no problems it looks like our devices are wrong

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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2018, 12:42:36 pm »
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Hi people,

just got my Gemini in from the second batch and it seems that the device has very weak wifi/bluetooth range. The bluetooth needs to be in direct line of sight and less than 2 meters. The wifi also needs to be within a 5m proximity of the router. Is this is normal or have I got a special device?

Andy

I have the same problem wifi receiption is very weak compared to my other devices. Sometimes wifi is not possible at all where my other devices have good signal.
Yesterday I tried to connect my Asus watch without succes, the device was found but connection could no be made.After that I connect my headphone succesfully at a distance of 10cm. Connection was lost again at 20 cm, even moving the phone before my head resulted in disconnections. This headphone works fine with my HTC phone up to 8 mtr and through a wall.
If other people can confirmhere that they have no problems it looks like our devices are wrong


oh, my pebble's connectivity is about the same as you... measured the db and was 20 less than laptop other phone

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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2018, 06:48:31 pm »
My Gemini found my work WiFi.  I couldn't connect because I'm not allowed. My phone  couldn't find anything.

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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2018, 07:34:31 pm »
FWIW, my wifi reception seems fine, though I haven't tested it carefully.  I'm reading and posting this one floor and a couple of walls away from the router, and it shows good (though not perfect) coverage.
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2018, 11:54:52 pm »
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...it seems that the device has very weak wifi/bluetooth range.

No problems for me with wifi range.

Have connected to numerous wifi systems (took my Gemini on an overseas trip recently) and had no problem connecting anywhere. Seems to have similar range etc as my laptop.

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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2018, 03:19:37 am »
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...it seems that the device has very weak wifi/bluetooth range.

No problems for me with wifi range.

Have connected to numerous wifi systems (took my Gemini on an overseas trip recently) and had no problem connecting anywhere. Seems to have similar range etc as my laptop.

ok, it seems to be a deice related issue... ill get in touch with gemini

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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2018, 06:09:16 pm »
I also experience very weak wifi. I'm sitting 2 meters away from the access point and geminipda loses the wifi connection every now and then and when connected it has a low signal strength. Updates from googleplay fails many times...

My old phone has a good wifi connection.

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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2018, 07:20:53 pm »
I did a quick test at the office. We have a long (approx 50m) corridor. Wifi was still strong at the end of the corridor (out of the office - through a door, round a corner and 50m to the lift). Internal antenna possibly not connected properly?

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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2018, 01:10:41 am »
WiFi is good, I have an iPad that has an unreliable weak connection when I am in the garden at the back of my house, but the Gemini makes a solid connection.

I've tested the bluetooth with audio, and while I was pairing the Gemini found a tile BT device in another room through a solid brick wall.

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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2018, 04:57:20 pm »
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I did a quick test at the office. We have a long (approx 50m) corridor. Wifi was still strong at the end of the corridor (out of the office - through a door, round a corner and 50m to the lift). Internal antenna possibly not connected properly?

Could be antenna connections, but I wonder if we can check this ourselves...

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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2018, 09:54:26 pm »
There is a teardown somewhere - all the metal plates removed. I did a quick search and couldn't find it. I think it must have been an update on the PC page. The connections are tiny, and could easily be incorrect. We had a problem like this on one of our units at work. Reseating the connection fixed it. Not promising this is your problem though

EDIT: it was hiding here all along

https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=34813

Can't see anything obvious, although the radio sections are the ones with Faraday cages.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2018, 10:05:07 pm by vader »

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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2018, 06:07:18 am »
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There is a teardown somewhere - all the metal plates removed. I did a quick search and couldn't find it. I think it must have been an update on the PC page. The connections are tiny, and could easily be incorrect. We had a problem like this on one of our units at work. Reseating the connection fixed it. Not promising this is your problem though

EDIT: it was hiding here all along

https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=34813

Can't see anything obvious, although the radio sections are the ones with Faraday cages.

Thanks for the 'hidden' link vader.

I contacted  Planet and they made me do some speedtests.
On my AP using my old phone (around 5 year old galayx note 3) I get 20MB at 3 meters away and next to the AP.
The gemini scored 0.1 Mb at 3 meters away and 7 MB net to the AP.

The agreed this is not correct... and want me to send in the device to get it repaired.
Guess what: they want me to pay for shipping costs back to the UK. EDIT: on second thoughts Planet decided to behave better!
« Last Edit: June 05, 2018, 06:17:10 am by mirakels »

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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2018, 08:40:20 am »
Same problem here. Second batch, Wifi and BT range is incredibly poor. I'll do some tests regarding connection speed.
Are all problematic devices from the second batch?