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geophile

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Installing Debian -> Red Triangle + No Command
« on: July 11, 2018, 03:56:45 pm »
I am following this guide to installing Linux: https://geminiplanet.com/how-to-install-deb...-on-the-gemini/

First, I installed all of the items contained in Gemini_Debian_TP_scatter.txt. On reboot, I saw the Gemini-with-a-Penguin screen, but then the Red Triangle and No Command screen.

They I tried a subset of files from Gemini_Debian_TP_scatter.txt, as described in the documentation. Same result.

Can someone tell me the right set of files to install?

Also, what is the correct reboot key sequence: Silver button + ESC? Which buttons do I release when? There seem to be differing opinions on what works, and I am still unsure based on my own experimentation.



Edit: Further problem: I can no longer flash the phone. I make sure the phone is shut off, hit Download on FlashTool, plug in the phone. Then I get a modal error dialog box, and the console (where I started FlashTool) says:

    Connect BROM failed: STATUS_ERR
    Disconnect!
    BROM Exception! ( ERROR : STATUS_ERR (-1073676287) , MSP ERROE CODE : 0x00.


    [HINT]:
    )((ConnectBROM,../SP-Flash-Tool-src/Conn/Connection.cpp,85))
« Last Edit: July 11, 2018, 05:15:34 pm by geophile »

Adam Boardman

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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2018, 06:40:13 am »
First ignore geminiplanet its a vanity/evangelist site from the same person as the private facebook group, plenty of 'slightly' wrong/out of date stuff lives there, though often it gets fixes in comments etc.

The official guide is best:
http://support.planetcom.co.uk/index.php/L..._Flashing_Guide
« Last Edit: July 12, 2018, 06:44:08 am by Adam Boardman »

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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2018, 07:34:20 am »
Quote from: Adam Boardman
First ignore geminiplanet its a vanity/evangelist site from the same person as the private facebook group, plenty of 'slightly' wrong/out of date stuff lives there, though often it gets fixes in comments etc.

The official guide is best:
http://support.planetcom.co.uk/index.php/L..._Flashing_Guide

The person behind geniniplanet.com and the Facebook group is also the person writing the official documentation. Make of that what you will.

As well as following the official guide (and in the interest of balance I will say this hasn't always been perfect either, although is certainly better now) I have found this community wiki helpful also - https://github.com/gemian/gemini-keyboard-apps/wiki

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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2018, 09:05:28 am »
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is also the person writing the official documentation

Good point, my objection is really to any 'documentation' that is fixed, and not in a wiki form, the official documentation does get updated with each release and also links through to the relevant wiki page for any community updates. The DebianTP page got lots of community fixes where as the DebianTP2 page has got a lot less, hopefully that's due to there being less problems to fix in the updated version.

I doubt there will be much useful information for Linux users in the official book, whatever content it may contain may well be 'correct' at the moment of publication but anything not actively maintained becomes more and more dangerous as time passes. If anyone involved in its creation is reading this please add a 'Hazard warning' to such documentation indicating that it is unlikely to age gracefully.

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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2018, 10:41:00 am »
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is also the person writing the official documentation

Good point, my objection is really to any 'documentation' that is fixed, and not in a wiki form, the official documentation does get updated with each release and also links through to the relevant wiki page for any community updates. The DebianTP page got lots of community fixes where as the DebianTP2 page has got a lot less, hopefully that's due to there being less problems to fix in the updated version.

I doubt there will be much useful information for Linux users in the official book, whatever content it may contain may well be 'correct' at the moment of publication but anything not actively maintained becomes more and more dangerous as time passes. If anyone involved in its creation is reading this please add a 'Hazard warning' to such documentation indicating that it is unlikely to age gracefully.

Totally agree

geophile

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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2018, 11:42:54 pm »
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First ignore geminiplanet its a vanity/evangelist site from the same person as the private facebook group, plenty of 'slightly' wrong/out of date stuff lives there, though often it gets fixes in comments etc.

The official guide is best:
http://support.planetcom.co.uk/index.php/L..._Flashing_Guide

Thanks, this guide provided everything I needed, Linux is up and running!

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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2018, 03:51:22 am »
Quote from: Adam Boardman
Good point, my objection is really to any 'documentation' that is fixed, not in a wiki form,[and has no] 'Hazard warning' (...) indicating that it is unlikely to age gracefully.
Mind to create a thread @Adam? I find this well fitted  and so important for the device in the long run.

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The official guide is best:
http://support.planetcom.co.uk/index.php/L..._Flashing_Guide

Thanks, this guide provided everything I needed, Linux is up and running!
I feel bad to say this here but my Debian TP2 partition #3 is back to the point you were on this thread 1st post, after a week (and a full upgrade
with debian backports added to the source list). Hope I can solve this!

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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2018, 04:32:33 am »
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Mind to create a thread @Adam? I find this well fitted :) and so important for the device in the long run.
Not particularly inclined, I do my documentation on the gemian wiki, and answer questions on this forum if I think the answer might be helpful at the moment of the answer. I hope that if I make a mistake on the wiki or something changes that makes it out of date someone else will fix it for me (good evidence of that happening so far). I also hope it goes without saying that a forum post is only valid at the point its posted so everyone knows to take it with a pinch of salt a few months down the line.

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I feel bad to say this here but my Debian TP2 partition #3 is back to the point you were on this thread 1st post, after a week (and a full upgrade
with debian backports added to the source list). Hope I can solve this!
Thats a bit crazy, you've gone from being able to press the correct buttons to boot your linux to not being able to (first part of first post is about using old instructions with new images), and then cannot flash it any more (second part is about BROM errors - suspect attempting a download only with a different scatter file).