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« on: May 20, 2004, 01:09:49 pm »
This is more of a debate topic. Do you think that PDA\'s such as the Zaurus will ever be as powerful as mainstream computers? If only the Zaurus could run the upcoming World of Warcraft (a man can dream, can\'t he), then I would be exceedingly happy. Anyway, random ramblings are over for now.

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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2004, 03:27:55 pm »
Your mobile phone has more electronic than the wall Apolo 11 lunar module. The Z is more powerfull than all 8 years laptop.

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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2004, 04:30:01 pm »
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Your mobile phone has more electronic than the wall Apolo 11 lunar module. The Z is more powerfull than all 8 years laptop.
I wrote about this in another post [the old space program technology] plus that was the debate about laptop vs desktop and now look how powerful laptops are.

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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2004, 05:51:11 pm »
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I wrote about this in another post [the old space program technology].


I read it. Scientist on French TV have used this idea on TV and radio during one week too.

It\'s amazing to see how those ideas are propagating in minds. I call them \'mind virus\'. A lot of advertising agency play with them. Sometimes, they are dangerous (mainly when they are mixed with fear and culture)...

Ok, let get back to Zaurus. Mephistopheles, can you explain your point?

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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2004, 07:50:58 pm »
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This is more of a debate topic. Do you think that PDA\'s such as the Zaurus will ever be as powerful as mainstream computers? If only the Zaurus could run the upcoming World of Warcraft (a man can dream, can\'t he), then I would be exceedingly happy. Anyway, random ramblings are over for now.


Have you seen news about the Sony PSP? The PSP is said to be near the PS2 performance, and you\'ve probably seen games on the PS2. Imagine linux running on it...  :roll:

(A linux booting from a mini-cd (rewritable, for easier upgrading), /home (or another directory tree with applications or games) on memory stick...)


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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2004, 07:59:57 pm »
I also read in the newspaper that the PSP can have built in cameras and networking systems. also nintendo and another japan\'s company made a different type of gameboy with double touch screens on the bottom and on the screen and you can play the games like PDA\'s by touching the screen.
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2004, 08:05:47 pm »
Ill make a prediction...

Once the pace of advancement in computational power has slown down (basically Moors law), that is when the speed of smaller handheld devices will begin to approach the speed of desktop computers.  As it becomes harder to advance the basic speed of devices, R&D will focus more on optimization and size reduction. Making computers more convenient to use.

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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2004, 08:13:45 pm »
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Ill make a prediction...

Once the pace of advancement in computational power has slown down (basically Moors law), that is when the speed of smaller handheld devices will begin to approach the speed of desktop computers.  As it becomes harder to advance the basic speed of devices, R&D will focus more on optimization and size reduction. Making computers more convenient to use.

I think this has begun already, Intel and the others seems to have slowed in pumping out faster processors, laptops are getting smaller and containing the latest tech instead of lagging a year or 2 behind desktops. My new Dell laptop at work is much faster than the Pent 90 I had 5 years ago and is a quarter of the weight.

Just my .02...

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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2004, 08:20:36 pm »
When Moores\' law is no longer valid, there\'ll be some <insert some computer scientist name here>s\' law, or Moores\' law is changed for other means regarding computer speed which works for another pair of decades.

There seem to be two parallel courses for development of device components, one for the desktop/server sized components and other for handheld devices sized components. Maybe in the future they become the same, and we use the same components in desktop and handheld devices, but for example maybe two or four processors in the desktop, and only one on the handheld device.
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2004, 09:29:18 am »
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I wrote about this in another post [the old space program technology].


I read it. Scientist on French TV have used this idea on TV and radio during one week too.

It\'s amazing to see how those ideas are propagating in minds. I call them \'mind virus\'. A lot of advertising agency play with them. Sometimes, they are dangerous (mainly when they are mixed with fear and culture)...

Ok, let get back to Zaurus. Mephistopheles, can you explain your point?


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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2004, 10:39:03 am »
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Ok, let get back to Zaurus. Mephistopheles, can you explain your point?


I didn\'t really have a point, but I meant, do you think that at some point the (I\'m picking a random name here) Zaurus SX-8800 will be as powerful as a new desktop PC puchased at the same time? It\'s just a debate topic I started to add variety to the forums. Personally, I think so.

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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2004, 11:06:03 am »
I know a software developer who works for Eutechnix, they been given a developement PSP, he said Gran Turismo 4 is amazing on it.

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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2004, 11:34:42 am »
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Ill make a prediction...


Multicore processors are the future.  If you can\'t make \'em faster, make more!

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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2004, 02:59:12 pm »
For a computer addict, nothing is more frustrating then been outside without all his data. Same thing for commercial people and soon all smartphone addicts... What is happening arround us today let think that embedded device / PDA / Smartphone will make up for lost time.

It\'s like mathematical function e.g. they will draw closer to desktop PC. I don\'t know what could alter this tendency. Any new kind of device accelerate this and doen\'t brake it. As soon as something come out, it brings more user to this following idea:  \"whatever you want, wherever you want\". Today, we translate it \"be able to connect to anyone from everywhere\" and \"your data wherever you are\".

So to give my opinion on Mephistopheles topic, I think that yes, we will certainly see someday laptop (or whatever it will be) as powerfull as  desktop PC. Of course, that doesn\'t mean that they will be as powerful as the more powerful one.

Laptop story is a good exemple of what we should be prepared for. We should also be prepared for exemple to new device (in one or two years) like the Zaurus but will X86 processor and with complete PC compatibity. Annonces have already be made... Time will tell.

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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2004, 03:02:51 pm »
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Very interesting. Thank for the link.