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« on: July 16, 2004, 10:15:43 am »
Hi all,
yesterday I tryed to delete some build in apps which I dont use and dont like (such as Texeditor, ImageViewer, Snake, Asteroids and so on). I followed sym links and found that many of them, and some others which I use, are linked to quicklounch. Where are the real progs and how can I delete them?
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« Last Edit: July 16, 2004, 10:16:41 am by Yasen »
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2004, 11:18:29 am »
They are linked to quickexec, which helps to speed up the start time of a program by keeping all the common code in memory and when needed, the rest of the application is dynamically loaded from a library.

The application libraries are in /home/QtPalmtop/binlib , but these are only links to the real files in the ROM.

All the preinstalled applications are in the ROM, which is normally read-only. So you are not going to gain any internal storage by getting rid of these applications because they're not in internal storage.

There is a way to make the ROM partition writable so you could delete the applications and move some other applications in that you will always want, although it is easy to mess up your ROM image this way. Resizing the ROM partition, if possible, requires a fair bit of knowledge, a new kernel and probably a new ROM image.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2004, 11:19:38 am by tumnus »
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2004, 11:34:06 am »
tumnus thank you once again.
You were very helpful to me for the past few days.
Yes I know that if i delete thouse progs i wont gain more space and yes I  know that making my ROM writable is dangerous. If I mess up things Ill blame only myself. Can you give me a link with more info about resizing the ROM partition.? And is it posible to "remove" some of "the common code" from memory and to safe the possibility of executing apps at longer startup time? Feal free to give me directions to some docs or howtos if you dont want to write.
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« Last Edit: July 16, 2004, 11:37:12 am by Yasen »
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2004, 11:50:30 am »
To make your ROM writable, as root do this:

mount / -o rw,remount

Make your changes and then make it read-only again with this (it certainly is not a good idea to leave it writable):

mount / -o ro,remount

I don't know of anyone that has resized the ROM partition where both the ROM and internal memory is on flash, apart from on the C860. On the C860 I think it was Cacko that developed a script that runs in maintenance mode, which recoups the space from getting rid of the translation dictionary. I may have a few details wrong since I don't have a C860 myslef. Of course this script would not be suitable for the 5600 as it stands due to the different total flash memory capacities.

I don't think quickexec apps can be made to execute like normal applications, but I may be wrong. I certainly don't know how it would be done.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2004, 11:51:48 am by tumnus »
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