E-mail/IM?

[rikiya]

I just love the fact  that I can use internet
wirelessly on my Z now! Yet, the problem is that
I can't use my hotmail account on the internet because it only allows IE 5 or up /Netscape. HELP! Is it possible to do some magic on the e-mail program and get it working? I'm not too bright on the POP and all that great stuff some people can do... If it's not possible at all... Is it possible to use a TELUS|(Canada) e-mail? One more thing... Is it possible to do msn messenger or a IM program to use my hotmail account?

Thanks!

P.S. It was nice posting since I haven't posted for about 2 months!  

Rikiya

[Chaos]

Hotmail... Sorry, I don't really know. I don't think so, though, unfortunatly...

Telus shouldn't be a problem. You'll probably just have to fill out the correct fields in QTMail's account setup. You'd just have to find out the POP3 or IMAP server, and the SMTP server (and of course that e-mail account's username and password). If you use non-webmail on whatever "main" computer you use, you probably have this info already...

And for IM, qpe-gaim might work (http://qpe-gaim.sf.net/), which is unfortunately problematic and a seemingly dead project... Or maybe Kmerlin, which seems dead on the Zaurus front too (http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=294).

Maybe someone with enough knowledge should revive qpe-gaim? The original devel (chipx86) seems to have dropped off the planet.

[choonhow]

I can't use my hotmail account on the internet because it only allows IE 5 or up /Netscape. HELP! Is it possible to do some magic on the e-mail program and get it working?

Hi rikiya,

If you are trying to access Hotmail through a browser, I believe you can do that by using Opera 7.30.  

hope that helps.


cheers

[Chaos]

Or the (even newer) Opera 7.55.  I haven't tried it with Hotmail (I avoid MS-anything), but if 7.30 works, why not 7.55?

Anyone curious, it's just included in IBM's multimodal stuff now. Newer version got silently slipped in sometime.

[ashikase]

You can (or at least could at one time, haven't tried in a while) access Hotmail using NetFront. The trick is to change the User Agent to match something which Hotmail will accept; for example, the User Agent string for the current version of Firefox is:

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Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10
The setting can be found under Tools->Browser Setting->Misc tab->Advanced Setting button. (the option is called Customized User Agent).

- ashikase
  anpachi, gifu, japan

[lardman]

And for IM, qpe-gaim might work (http://qpe-gaim.sf.net/), which is unfortunately problematic and a seemingly dead project...

I spoke to the author yesterday - he's been busy with work. The source is available on the sourceforge site for all but the latest qpe-gaim (0.4) release, and I've asked him to provide this too so someone else can have a go with it if they want (and so it can be added to OE).

In any case, gaim works (or at least did a couple of weeks ago when I last used it) fine for me.

Hotmail... Sorry, I don't really know. I don't think so, though, unfortunatly...

Is it possible to change the User Agent string to pretend to be IE? Or is ths a functionality problem?


Si

[rikiya]

I don't know hotmail's Server or Proxy which i probably need to know in order to use the IM program (I chose TipicME Pro) does anyone know? or how to know? or should I send an e-mail to the hotmail staff for this help?

Thks

[Chaos]

Don't need proxy settings. Doesn't it have like a Hotmail account setup thing or something? The server info should be there automatically if it does... If it doesn't then that's a bit... Well, sloppy.

And I don't think Hotmail staff would take too kindly to 3rd party apps. And looking at the ZSI, it might have the same issues that Kmerlin have with the different version of the MSN protocol, judging from the date.

[acpkendo]

The source is available on the sourceforge site for all but the latest qpe-gaim (0.4) release, and I've asked him to provide this too so someone else can have a go with it if they want (and so it can be added to OE).

I believe gaim itself is in the OZ feed already, although this might be a version compiled to work with GPE.

[rikiya]

Sorry for asking so much questions but...

I now installe gaim with all the requirements that was written on the gaim site including:

-gconv-tiny
-libgaim-protocol-gg
-libgaim-protocol-msn
-libgaim-ssl
-libcrypt1
-liblib2.0
-libgnutls7
-qpe-gaim
-zlib

Did I miss anything cause when I press the icon for gaim, it doesn't show up but it looks like it tries to and then shuts off without anything on the screen...

any help?

Thks

[lardman]

I believe gaim itself is in the OZ feed already, although this might be a version compiled to work with GPE.

Yeah, this version is for X11.

Did I miss anything cause when I press the icon for gaim, it doesn't show up but it looks like it tries to and then shuts off without anything on the screen...

You probably need to use the compat libs. If you're already doing this then try it from the command line and post the output.


Si

[rikiya]

I didn't know anything about terminals and etc. but thanks to lardman's suggestion I tried and typed "gaim" on terminal and viola this thing came out and said that there wasn't this file and I installed it and again it said another file so i installed it and repeated like 4 times and there you go it worked! YAY! Finally I can do IMMMMMMMM! Was it because I use the original ROM with japanese ?(I need to be able to type japanese) ?

Thanks everyone for the help!

P.S. Thanks to the person who suggested Opera! It worked! and also the person who suggested to change the browser mablobber in netfront to make it work! it worked great! thank you thank you!

[javab0y]

Hi folks...

I was (and am) very interested in reviving the qpe-gaim project.  I unsuccessfully tried to get ahold of chipx86 and could not get him to respond.  I tried IRC and email.

Without him, my first plan of attack was to get the qpe-gaim source and libgaim.  The source I got was a .5 version...and perhaps did not seem that complete.  I got it from the qpe cvs repository.  It seemed dependent on a new libgaim that it needs.

Libgaim was very hard to track down.  I got the old-old version from chipx86's subversion server.  It was too old to work with the newer .5 version and too new to work with the .3 version.  The most up-to-date version is found on the Adium (mac IM) cvs server (1.0.2).  However, it seems like its patched heavily for the Mac (I could be wrong).  So getting it to compile was fruitless.

What I need to do is get the old libgaim source to compile the new gaim source code to produce a libgaim binary.  Once this is done, I should be able to get the .5 version of qpe-gaim to compile against the library.  I hope that this will allow qpe-gaim to have new life.

I will try to continue to get ahold of chipx86.  If I cannot get ahold of him, I will take the qpe-gaim source and libgaim source and create a new open-source project on sourceforge.

The bottom line is we really need a patched libyahoo...and we can have qpe-gaim working again.

Anybody here have any objections, questions, or tips?  Any input would be appreciated.

[lardman]

I think this is the most up to date version: http://sourceforge.net/projects/qpe-gaim/

The qpe-gaim frontend source is only available for 0.3, but there don't look to have been that many changes between that and 0.4.

The libgaim diff file is there for not-quite the latest version; I think this has to be applied to an older version of gaim, not sure where to get old gaim source tarballs.

I'm all for it being updated.


Si

[acpkendo]

gaim (not qpe-gaim) is available in the OZ feed.  The front end may need work, but perhaps you could leverage the work of the OZ/OE folks and produce a new qpe/opie gaim based on these libraries?  IIRC the libgaim there is fairly recent.

Correction

Hmmm. . .  looks like maybe there is not a libgaim, but rather it's included as a static package with the gpe frontend. . .