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« on: November 11, 2004, 01:14:31 pm »
I will be receiving a C3000 from Conics.net in a few days, and would like to dump the Sharp ROM ASAP. I know that most of these issues will require research and testing on an actual unit, but I want to get an idea now of how difficult the porting process will be. I will, of course, help out in any way I can (non-technical user).

Potential Issues:
-C3000 has 16MB Flash ROM, versus the 64 or 128MB in other C-series Zauri.  The 4GB Microdrive is designed to take the place of the user memory (storage), but it is not yet known if any of the OS files reside on the HDD.
-C3000 uses the Intel 2700G graphics chipset (unconfirmed); other C-series Zauri use the ATI Imageon 100
-C3000 has USB Host capability, not present on other C-series Zauri.

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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2004, 02:21:12 pm »
We have not yet got our hands on C3000 :-(
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2004, 02:32:30 pm »
Does the team absolutely need a SL-C3000 in order to port pdaXrom to it? I know it would be more difficult, but could you not just work with the C3000 owners?

I suppose the C3000 early adopters might be willing to pitch in to buy a C3000 for the pdaXrom team, but that would take a while (the C3000 is not well received by most on these forums)

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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2004, 03:18:30 pm »
"Of course" we don't need it - but if you have a "toy" your more likely to be interested in it :-)
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2004, 03:26:01 pm »
I see your point  ;-)
Well, then, could you set up a "buy the pdaXrom team a C3000" fund on the main page of the pdaXrom site?

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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2004, 04:11:36 pm »
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I see your point  ;-)
Well, then, could you set up a "buy the pdaXrom team a C3000" fund on the main page of the pdaXrom site?
Or maybe the regular donat-o-meter could "overflow" to a "x $ to buy a C3000" in one of the months.
(Gosh, I want a C3000... =)

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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2004, 04:51:18 pm »
or hopefully one of the hardware importers will help out and maybe borrow us one or even better donate one :-)
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2004, 05:03:52 pm »
Just in case anyone missed it there's a thread in the general discussion area with this link:

http://www.ayati.com/kobako/c3bara.htm

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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2004, 06:58:25 pm »
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If they can replace the microdrive with a CF card, then I would assume it would be possible to put in a (modified) CF wifi card.  Add a 2GB SD card, and a 5GB microdrive, and you've got a wireless Z with 7GB of storage!  
what wifi card do you know of that could fit (or be modified to fit)?
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2004, 07:41:34 pm »
@ Xumbi

(at the risk of the continued hijacking of my own thread   :-P    )
There is also the matter of the antenna on the WiFi card. I would expect that it would cause some major interference to the circuitry of the Zaurus and/or vice versa. IMO, a much better solution would be to strip down/hack a USB WiFi adapter to fit in a smaller enclosure and plug directly into the mini-USB port of the Zaurus.

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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2004, 08:11:49 pm »
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If they can replace the microdrive with a CF card, then I would assume it would be possible to put in a (modified) CF wifi card.  Add a 2GB SD card, and a 5GB microdrive, and you've got a wireless Z with 7GB of storage!   
what wifi card do you know of that could fit (or be modified to fit)?
My socket cf wifi card is pretty small.  I'm not that electronically savvy, but I bet someone could get it to work by taking it apart and making it fit.

Also, in case anyone missed it, there was another thread confirming that the 3000 has usb host support.

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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2004, 10:54:19 pm »
@ Xumbi

I am sure the circuit board of most (if not all) WiFi cards runs the whole length of the card. Even if the casing was taken off, you would still have a circuit board that is too long to fit in the internal Microdrive slot. Someone would have to basically desolder the chips from the board, design and build a shorter board, and solder to chips to it.  Even if an individual was capable of the design part, most would not own or have access to the specialized equipment and resources needed to build that complex of a circiut board from scratch. I remember reading an article in PC Magazine about a company that offers such services, but the cost of building just a few boards would probably be prohibitively expensive.

My idea for the USB WiFi adapter would add bulk, but it would solve most user's complaint of having a WiFi card extending beyond the CF slot and making the unit difficult to hold.

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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2004, 07:46:40 am »
USB wifi sounds like a good all around solution, I hope someone gets it to work.

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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2004, 01:37:23 pm »
Does anyone have any details of how other handhelds have solved these problems (i.e. size and antenna)??

What about the 6000L?  Has anyone looked inside one?  I wonder if they used the same trick for this (i.e. using the second CF port).  If so, maybe the "internal" cards are already available somewhere (maybe even from Sharp themselves as replacement parts)?  How did Sharp handle the antenna problem in the 6000L?

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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2004, 02:14:08 pm »
The 6000L actually registers the wireless as part of the usb host as opposed to the secondary CF slot. The secondary CF slot may be used by plugging in the expansion adapter.