Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

[adf]

people with emails should maybe notify yahoo?
everyone who hasn't already should call amazon and ask them to look into it?

[adf]

NOt I.
Amazon could tell...
or we could try to find one of the people on the feedback list.

amazon down again?

[f1oyd1an]

yep.. the beast is dead again..

[wizzard]

Its quite easy to set yourself up as a seller in Amazon. I did it with no trouble at all. Of course I already had an account with Amazon and they have my credit card numbers and address.
The part about payments is interesting:

3. Receiving Payment and Creating Refunds

Amazon Payments charges your buyer's credit card and deposits the funds
in your Payments account. Funds deposited in your Payments account are
automatically transferred to your checking account every 14 days. After
your first 14-day billing period has passed, you may manually claim
your
funds once every 24-hours by clicking the "Transfer now" link in your
Payments account. 

Please note that whether or not you disburse funds from a sale to your
account, you are still required to ship the item within two business
days of order notification. You can manage your Amazon Payments account
and view your transactions at:

www.amazon.com/seller-account

As the seller, you may create a refund through Amazon Payments if you
and your buyer agree that it is necessary to do so. We have created
online tools for you to do this easily and quickly.  For help with
creating refunds and other payments issues, go to:

www.amazon.com/seller-help/payments

It is possible that the seller set himself up as an Amazon seller for 2 weeks and then went in for the kill.

[adf]

That's the sticking point.
IF we could get amazon to investigate now there would be something on the other end of the creditcard/account info. The longer the delay the liklier he will be lost for good.
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[offroadgeek]

holy shit... adf and f1oyd1an have doubled the posts in this thread just in the last 2 hours    

might you guys be obsessing?  Not that I don't blame you... I got a very quick email from him (posted somewhere in the begining of this thread) about the z's being out of stock... he replied in like 5 minutes saying that he'll "add more".  I thought it was great that he had so many in stock... I suppose it doesn't take much to change the qty available as an amazon merchant.

I've emailed him twice now after the purchase, and no response.  I thought it was such a great deal, I bought two... crap.. this is going to really suck if it turns out to be a fraud deal.

If you've already contacted jpettins and they failed to resolve the problem, don't worry--Amazon.com can help. You can either...
1. File a reimbursement claim under Amazon.com's A-to-z Guarantee if: You don't receive your order by December 10, 2004
2. You received a damaged or defective item
3. You received a different item from the one you ordered
4. You want to request a return, refund, or exchange

You'll be able to file a reimbursement claim beginning December 26, 2004
When you return to this page, you'll find the "File a claim" button in this space.

I'm going to keep my hopes up and see if it actually gets shipped.  Besides, I never saw anywhere that (s)he was going to send them via priority mail... I just saw "standard shipping" with a delivery estimate of December 10, 2004 - December 24, 2004.

[f1oyd1an]

maybe we should send a link to this thread to amazon

[offroadgeek]

maybe we should send a link to this thread to amazon

and do what?  prove that we're a bunch of over obsessive zaurus freaks?  

[adf]

I think so.
I also think each of us should call them with the ip info, the sales record of pettin etc.. request that they look into it asap.
I did.
one or two others have.
If we all do, and send'em the thread (anyone know how?) maybe some progress will be made

[SHaubner]

You're not going to find out much my tracing the IP's especially if he's using Yahoo webmail.  Also, it's highly unlikely there's a real Jack Pettins--if so, it's probably a stolen id  

Anyway, the best strategy with Amazon is to *call* them and say that your order looks fishy for the following reasons:

1) The seller has only been active two weeks
2) Previous items with positive feedback appeared to be small value items used to build up a rating
3) The item in question was offered at an extremely low price (below typical market value)
4) He was selling a *large* quantity of this item (only Amazon knows how many)
5) He provided *instant* communications just before and after the sale
6) Said the item shipped but did not provide any tracking or delivery confirm #
7) No replies to emails since last Friday
Negative feedback has started to show up on the seller
9) You know of many other buyers with the same concerns

Ask Amazon to begin an investigation on jpettins.  If we all do this it will quickly flag his account as a problem that they will check out.  Most likely, he and the money are gone.

[f1oyd1an]

No problem, if we get our Z's  

[wizzard]

Was on the phone with Amazon support. They said that the seller had "issues" and asked me to contact them on the 9th to process their A to Z guarantee.
The delivery estimate was between Dec 9th and 23rd. So it seems that at least it might be possible to get back the money fairly soon.

[SHaubner]

...and per wizzard's find

10) He waited until the 14-day waiting period to start his "mass" sale of Z's

[adf]

true offroad... I tend to obsess.
BUt... sometimes an idea is worth persuing.
in sum we have:
a good deal
the seller vanishes -no return mail for days after we have paid (though he COULD turn up)
The seller moves el cheapo stuff for 2 weeks -gets good feedback..then after big sales get listed as a fraud and a cheat (alarm bells?)
ALL of the seller auctions are suddenly gone (that makes me worry)
the seller says they come from va... but his mail is routed through a yahoo server in Cali
(that MIGHT be a yahoo thing though)
Maybe this should be examined and looked into?

[wizzard]

maybe we should send a link to this thread to amazon

and do what?  prove that we're a bunch of over obsessive zaurus freaks?  

Aren't we?