Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

[nmos]

Most ebayers with established feedback ratings are legit. I looked at a few listings, but they are typically over $400 at the end and with shipping around $430-$460. Might look into a used c700 again.

Agreed.  It looks like I'm going back to my previous plan of waiting untill after Christmas and trying to pick up a clamshell from someone who has just upgraded.  Many (but not all) of the 6k's on Ebay right now are from people who have been selling there for years so I wouldn't hesitate if the price were right but they're really not selling for less than $400.  It's a shame though,  I've already got a SD card, screen protectors, and a pair of USB cables on the way.  

[johnw]

I sent a link of our discussion here to Mike Magee, editor of The Inquirer.  If he writes an "Online Buyer Beware" piece for the holiday season using our experiences with Amazon as the foundation for his article, it might embarrass Amazon into taking some action on our behalf.  Mike Magee's email address is:

[wizzard]

Another "just launched" seller has listed 6K for $350 on Amazon. Any takers?

[f1oyd1an]

maybe its jpettins

EDIT: his yahoo account is created today.

[adf]

I guess I should have mentioned that I have bought a lot off ebay..including my 5600..
and NEVER had a problem.  I had always heard amazon was the more reliable of the two, too....

[adf]

Holy crap!!! I bet it is him. or a friend
I wish i were a little more solvent or less onliged to buy stuff for people just now. I'd buy one   of those too.... and when it came up as a fraud after all this, sue amazon or something.  If this one is bs too Amazon bears the resposibility, I think. They have been informed, and should know to check

[offroadgeek]

I really wish amazon were more on the ball.

They have no reason to keep us in the dark and keep our money.

Actually, I think amazon is justified in keeping the money and holding to their a-z policy.  And it makes sense that its based on the latest possible receipt date, otherwise, people could initiate a refund on items bought too early and that person could end up with a refund and the item purchased.

I'm sure that as a company, Amazon doesn't want to be too quick to denounce a seller as a fraud.  I know it's hard, especially when we're possible victims, but I think we should be as patient as possible, and let Amazon follow their processes.

[offroadgeek]

Another "just launched" seller has listed 6K for $350 on Amazon. Any takers?

should I try to buy this one?  My wife would kill me if she ever found out what I was doing (or even about the other two).

Best case scenario, I get a 6000.  Worst case scenario, I get duped again and will eventually get a refund.

[offroadgeek]

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bummer... I just emailed the seller to see if (s)he had any more units to sell...

[SHaubner]

Actually, I think amazon is justified in keeping the money and holding to their a-z policy.  And it makes sense that its based on the latest possible receipt date, otherwise, people could initiate a refund on items bought too early and that person could end up with a refund and the item purchased.

I agree with that for the majority of situations where the seller may just be slow in shipment.  However, as I stated before, there is just too much info here to dispute that this is not a fraud.  There is a big difference between selling a few used DVD's for $1.33@ for 2 weeks and then pushing $300 consumer electronics in bulk.

Amazon has a responsibility to protect its customers from getting involved in situations like this in the first place.  They should provide a few days for the seller to respond and then if no contact is made then let the customer know that there may be a problem with their order.  How many of us would still be waiting for our Z6K if it weren't for this board?  How many poor folks are still out there waiting? I expect to be left out in the cold with eBay, but not Amazon.  The *least* they could do at this point is to acknowledge that an investigation is merited and not send a form email.

[offroadgeek]

I agree with that for the majority of situations where the seller may just be slow in shipment.  However, as I stated before, there is just too much info here to dispute that this is not a fraud.  There is a big difference between selling a few used DVD's for $1.33@ for 2 weeks and then pushing $300 consumer electronics in bulk.

Amazon has a responsibility to protect its customers from getting involved in situations like this in the first place.  They should provide a few days for the seller to respond and then if no contact is made then let the customer know that there may be a problem with their order.  How many of us would still be waiting for our Z6K if it weren't for this board?  How many poor folks are still out there waiting? I expect to be left out in the cold with eBay, but not Amazon.  The *least* they could do at this point is to acknowledge that an investigation is merited and not send a form email.

I agree with you, I just don't think it's realistic for Amazon to react extremely quickly on this.  We do have a lot of supporting info on jpettins being a fraud, but there is still an extremely slim chance that he may just be really busy (maybe traveling with work), and just hasn't had a chance to respond to a single email or ship the items.

Hopefully this will all be worked out soon though.

[SHaubner]

there is still an extremely slim chance that he may just be really busy (maybe traveling with work), and just hasn't had a chance to respond to a single email or ship the items.

Here is the email I received last Thursday afternoon:

------- Forwarded message follows -------
Date sent:         Thu, 2 Dec 2004 14:19:06 -0800 (PST)
From:              jack pettins <jpettins@yahoo.com>
Subject:           Re: Zaurus SL-6000
To:                shaubner @ mindspring.com

it went out priority about an hour ago

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[Bill Essig]

I googled jpettins and got this  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&cli...%22&btnG=Search

Looks like he's selling everywhere...

[adf]

The pettins stuff is links back to amazon.
the thing to do is find that last december 8th poster..get info if possible.
_radu_ seems to have been on amazon for about 5 years writes reviews and stuff. Would be the best resource.... if possible.

And as to waiting out amazon's corporate policies.  BS!
If this was a brick&mortar would we have to wait?  I understand that it would be folly for them to persue every complaint. This situation is clearly a problem. several of their reps have said so.  They have the capacity to verify the existence or flight of pettins. I think that they need to do so and to notify us.  If they can't pay us back until the day after the last shipping day, that I could understand. BUt they should make arrangements quickly and not leave this haning over our heads and then put us through the wringer to claim our refunds a month later.

We should have feedback from amazon. If they also cannot confirm the viability of the seller then we should have all of our claim stuff filed and done and sorted by amazon to make a nice easy refund on the 1st day it is allowable.  Now maybe it is too early to expect them to do any of this. Maybe a week or so would be a more reasonable timeline.

In the meantime can we find nothing else about the elusive pettins?

[adf]

btw on the ebay line.. why are 5600's with $20 cameras cards selling f0r 350?
IF they are 255s even that seems high.  I won't complain though