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« Reply #45 on: February 15, 2005, 12:27:02 pm »
Isn't the 3700 the fat one? No, no, I don't like it.

Are the  the Zaurus, the not-so-supported-and-discontinued Yopy, and mabye a Ipaq with Familliar or the Archos our only choices?

That doesn't leave us much freedom.But I guess I can't really complain.The Zaurus is really sweet.If the Archos becomes supported too, It also enters the sweet devices domain.But I don't see that coming.Soon.

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« Reply #46 on: February 15, 2005, 03:18:38 pm »
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Isn't the 3700 the fat one? No, no, I don't like it.

Are the  the Zaurus, the not-so-supported-and-discontinued Yopy, and mabye a Ipaq with Familliar or the Archos our only choices?

That doesn't leave us much freedom.But I guess I can't really complain.The Zaurus is really sweet.If the Archos becomes supported too, It also enters the sweet devices domain.But I don't see that coming.Soon.
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« Reply #47 on: February 15, 2005, 05:18:07 pm »
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Are the  the Zaurus, the not-so-supported-and-discontinued Yopy, and mabye a Ipaq with Familliar or the Archos our only choices?

That doesn't leave us much freedom.But I guess I can't really complain.The Zaurus is really sweet.If the Archos becomes supported too, It also enters the sweet devices domain.But I don't see that coming.Soon.
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Don't forget the Zaurus is discontinued and unsupported for everywhere except Japan. The PMA400 is a supported device.

There will be more linux handheld devices running Qtopia being released this year....
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« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2005, 12:55:05 am »
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Isn't the 3700 the fat one?
It's a little thicker to accomodate the CF card.  
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Are the  the Zaurus, the not-so-supported-and-discontinued Yopy, and mabye a Ipaq with Familliar or the Archos our only choices?
Yes, but as ipotter said, the Z is not supported outside Japan, the same applies to the Yopy (the 3700 is not discontinued) outside Korea, the iPaq is not an option unless you know which machines support Linux, where the get Linux and how to do it, and the Archos.

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If the Archos becomes supported too, It also enters the sweet devices domain.
I don't understand what you mean by supported? Supported by whom?  

I think people get easily distracted by this support thing, if you have a problem nowadays, you go online, find the right forum or site and sort the problem out. If the machine goes belly up then you return it to the supplier.  With the Zaurii I had, I never relied on Sharp for anything, ShirtPocket was where I bought my 860 and they were responsible for fixing/replacing it - how they dealt with Sharp was irrelevant to me as a customer. My 5500 was off eBay, if it died - tough luck. When my first Yopy was playing up, YopyPDA UK were the people I called. In fact, I've never contacted a manufacturer in my life AFAIK regarding any product, only the vendor. i.e. the people who take my money and give me a receipt  

2005 is a big year in our house, I've a lifetime of cluttered machines etc and PC's which are all destined for /dev/null. The PC's (finally) go within the month for Mac's and I will be getting the Archos as soon as the price is right.  I really like it, the more I read, the more my MythTV setup seems pointless, it will be a household item more than mine personally. The Yopy serves me well.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed that ipotters words are prophetic and new machines are on the horizon, I'm optimistic about Linux handhelds in a way I've never been before, they're all good - they're all fantastic and more is to come. I for one think Trolltech has done a real service to the Linux community in making something which was once a dream for many of us Linux old-timers a reality.  
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« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2005, 08:30:10 pm »
In the Yahoo discussion thread referenced above, a poster wrote that the PMA430 only has 8-bit color.  Can anyone here confirm or refute this?
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« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2005, 08:54:20 pm »
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In the Yahoo discussion thread referenced above, a poster wrote that the PMA430 only has 8-bit color.  Can anyone here confirm or refute this?
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The PMA430 has a special trick. Qtopia and it's apps run in 8 bit, but the video and multimedia apps run 16 bits. Not sure why they did this. But they will have a special "multimedia sdk" that I would bet has some more information on this.
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« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2005, 09:05:43 pm »
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Does anybody know which processor the archos uses? What I'd really like to know is whether programs compiled for the Zaurus will work on the Archos or will require recompilation. I suppose eventually it won't matter if we get a cross-compiler but it would be great if the Zaurus programs just ran on the Archos. So, does anybody know?


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The pma430 uses an omap1510. Zaurus apps do run on it, with the exception of some that write directly to the framebuffer, and others that install to non standard places, like apps that create their own tab in launcher.
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« Reply #52 on: February 17, 2005, 10:05:38 am »
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The PMA430 has a special trick. Qtopia and it's apps run in 8 bit, but the video and multimedia apps run 16 bits. Not sure why they did this.

Me, neither.  Web browsing in 8-bit color is pretty lame.
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« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2005, 02:34:02 pm »
now that's a nice toy :-)
However sice I pretty much don't get time to watch tv at home let alone while out and about I'll stick to my 860. But hey, come the lottery win..........
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« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2005, 02:16:32 pm »
The review reads:

"Even the meagre configurability of Qtopia is not made available.'

"The way that the Linux underbelly has been concealed from the end user is irritating to a Linux user."

"If you do have to reboot the unit (e.g., because the touchscreen has stopped working), the date gets reset back to January 27th, 2005), and any manual configurations changes you've made get set back to the factory defaults. "

It seems some of the great fun of using (playing with) Zaurii is lost!?
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« Reply #55 on: March 11, 2005, 07:34:33 am »
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It seems some of the great fun of using (playing with) Zaurii is lost!?
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Or maybe not, you can run a konsole and Archos have published a new firmware, which presumably if you are feeling brave you could customise the rom anyway.

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« Reply #56 on: March 11, 2005, 07:54:00 am »
I've had a play with one at a local store, very nice.

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The review reads:

"Even the meagre configurability of Qtopia is not made available.'
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On the machine I played with, it seemed as configurable as Qtopia 1.7 on my handheld. I was happy with it.

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Don't know how, seemed no different to my old Zaurii, the terminal was there, don't know if there is a difference between the one they had in the store and the one the reviewer had.

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"If you do have to reboot the unit (e.g., because the touchscreen has stopped working), the date gets reset back to January 27th, 2005), and any manual configurations changes you've made get set back to the factory defaults. "

It seems some of the great fun of using (playing with) Zaurii is lost!?
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I couldn't verify the rebooting thing.  But I had real problems with my C860 and the time on it, in fact, for keeping time it was useless. It felt like any other Qtopia machine, resolution was good, good form factor but with all the A/V goodies.

At the £549 price tag Dixons (UK) are charging, I could buy a lot of other things, so it looses out there. I'd consider it only when the price is much less than half of that. IF I had the money right now to burn, I'd get it though  
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« Reply #57 on: March 31, 2005, 02:44:07 pm »
Seach of the archos PMA400 shows it available at  http://www.compuplus.com/insidepageNoLinks...ogle&id=1003800 for 685. US.
It is getting close to being on my wish list.  I have noticed on ebay right now that everything Z is going for more than it was last year at this time.
Once enough of these get in peoples hands it won't be long until they run whatever is available to Z's now.

I will keep my z for now (I still have 4 amigas).
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« Reply #58 on: May 04, 2005, 07:59:37 am »
Zautrix will be working on an Archos port of KDEPIM/PI soon, FYI.