Cacko Feeds

[silvio]

I would like to see lufs in cacko feed - mounting everything everywhere via ssh, ftp etc...

[cyl]

Can include portabase? Thanks.

I have too many portabase database I created that I am not able change my SL5500 to my new C760 for this reason.

[bor]

Hi,
how to get all source packages for cacko 1.22?
(I have obtained all the compiled packages using the script
given by Stupkid, but I would like to compile some packages
from the source.)

          Janusz

[ev1l]

The VNC server package needs some testing before I put it on the feed.  I noticed that there are some some differences between the files included in clofland's package and the one that I have on the feed.  It is on the TODO list, in KO/PI I might add...
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Any chance of you updating the KDEPIM packages regularly? Puuhlease?

[ev1l]

I'd like to get rid of earlier versions of the libraries if possible, as some of them are pretty big!

Uninstall/reinstall the klibs, it should do the trick.

[craigtyson]

Is is possable to lisk whats already installed on the ROM aka OZ. The ability to remove / reinstall builtin apps and libs whould be usefull also (spammed my rom installing 5500 libs and cant seem to get them back without reflashing)

[suid]

Uninstall/reinstall the klibs, it should do the trick.

What I ended up doing (if I can remember correctly) was :

1. Removed all old libs, which screwed up the apps good 'n proper (probably too liberal with my wildcards).
2. Uninstalled all my Kde-Pim/Pi packages.
3. Removed a number of broken links that were still hanging around the libs directory.
4. Re-installed.

Everything now fine and freed up around 2Mb. However, I'm a little wary of using "Upgrade" now if redundant files aren't being removed.

Ian

[stupkid]

Everything now fine and freed up around 2Mb. However, I'm a little wary of using "Upgrade" now if redundant files aren't being removed.

Ian

Upgrade does not have proper behaviour in ipkg.  It just installs the new package on top of the old one instead of removing the old package first.  Should be able to change this behaviour in ipkg as it is just a shell script.  I'll put on the Cacko bug list.

[stupkid]

Is is possable to lisk whats already installed on the ROM aka OZ. The ability to remove / reinstall builtin apps and libs whould be usefull also (spammed my rom installing 5500 libs and cant seem to get them back without reflashing)
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Many of the apps that ship with the ROM cannot be removed.  That's why is is called a ROM (Read Only).  This was the reason behind Cacko lite.  All the software that we could easily remove from the ROM was pulled so that you can upgrade/change apps after the install.  The trade off is that the ROM data is compressed whereas the writable sections are not.  So, you will end up requiring much more space if you have all the same apps installed on Cacko lite as on the Full Cacko ROM.

[craigtyson]

Granted ROM means read only but if apps were / libs were listed in package manager atleast you'd get a warning when an older version was being installed no?  Didnt know about the compression though.  Does this have any effect on speed ?

Cheers

[stupkid]

Hi,
how to get all source packages for cacko 1.22?
(I have obtained all the compiled packages using the script
given by Stupkid, but I would like to compile some packages
from the source.)

          Janusz
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Much of the Sharp ROM and therefore Cacko is not Open Source.  I certainly have the sources for the packages that I have built, but in 99% of the cases the only changes where to the Makefiles and/or configure scripts not the actual sources.  What sources are you looking for?

[kahm]

Can include portabase? Thanks.

I have too many portabase database I created that I am not able change my SL5500 to my new C760 for this reason.
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Check out [a href=\"http://portabase.sourceforge.net/download.html]the portabase homepage.[/url] You'll be looking for the  portabase_1.9_new_sharp_roms.zip package, which is what I'm using on 1.22a lite.

[bor]

Thank you very much for explanation.
I am very surprising that Cacko is not Open Source (what reason is for it?; I would expect that
there are packages *src* somewhere...)
1)
I am loking for
fileserch_1.22-lite-1...
and vim-full_6.3.1.
2)
"Makefiles and/or configure scripts not the actual sources":
I have compiled kernel for Cacko 1.22 (as described in  my-zaurus.narod.ru/; I have applied all patches in the given order, except hostap-driver..) a week ago. But my zImage has different size than the original one.
I have obtained:
108 4580 for boxer-cacko-j
and
104 2874 bytes  for boxer-cacko.

The original Cacko zImage.bin has 104 2788 bytes for C860.

So, I am not sure if my kernel could be safely (for my Zaurus) installed.
What do you think about it? How to compile the kernel to get exactly
the same file as in Cacko (as the first safely step to use my own kernels)?

3)I think that file updater.sh is very important for starting the system.
I do not know what is this (I have seen some information about this file,
but on sites not connected with Cacko- and Cacko is the best:P...),
where are sources of this file and what to do to get "compiled" updater.sh.
(I think that better all to know about it before installing a new kernel)
 Thanks in advance
                     Janusz

[maslovsky]

Thank you very much for explanation.
I am very surprising that Cacko is not Open Source (what reason is for it?; I would expect that
there are packages *src* somewhere...)

Because Cacko ROM includes some applications, which are not open source. I'd say that Cacko ROM has no license at all.

1)
I am loking for
fileserch_1.22-lite-1...

This is a closed source application from Sharp C3000 ROM

and vim-full_6.3.1.

I'm sure google will help you.

2)
"Makefiles and/or configure scripts not the actual sources":
I have compiled kernel for Cacko 1.22 (as described in  my-zaurus.narod.ru/; I have applied all patches in the given order, except hostap-driver..) a week ago. But my zImage has different size than the original one.
I have obtained:
108 4580 for boxer-cacko-j
and
104 2874 bytes  for boxer-cacko.

The original Cacko zImage.bin has 104 2788 bytes for C860.

You mentioned that you didn't apply hostap drivers patch, maybe that's why kernel image is different.

So, I am not sure if my kernel could be safely (for my Zaurus) installed.
What do you think about it? How to compile the kernel to get exactly
the same file as in Cacko (as the first safely step to use my own kernels)?

Yes, if your kernel built without errors, you can flash it.

3)I think that file updater.sh is very important for starting the system.
I do not know what is this (I have seen some information about this file,
but on sites not connected with Cacko- and Cacko is the best:P...),
where are sources of this file and what to do to get "compiled" updater.sh.
(I think that better all to know about it before installing a new kernel)

updater.sh is a shell script encoded with a simple algorithm. There is a small utility written by sash to encode/decode it.  You maybe able to get it at pdaxrom.org site. I can put it on my web site also.

[stupkid]

I am very surprising that Cacko is not Open Source (what reason is for it?)

We do not have the source for any of the Sharp packages because Sharp has not made these available.  Since Cacko is the Japanese Sharp ROM, which is not OSS only parts are OSS like bash, we cannot give source that we don't have.  So it's not anything against OSS we just don't have the source.  This is also why Cacko doesn't have a Sourceforge page.  Kino2 is GPL and most likely any other software that we write for Cacko will be.

1)I am loking for
fileserch_1.22-lite-1...
and vim-full_6.3.1.

Try running 'ipkg info <package_name>' example:

$ ipkg info vim-full
Package: vim-full
Priority: optional
Section: Console
Version: 6.3-1
Architecture: arm
Maintainer: Helmut Kolb <zaurus-vim@0x13.com>
Depends:
Installed-Size: 9.4MB
Filename: vim-full_6.3-1_arm.ipk
Size: 3141641
MD5Sum: 2d40f5c2766428d425df5cb6879b9196
Description: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor
 Vim is an almost compatible version of the UNIX editor Vi.  Many new
 features have been added: multi level undo, syntax highlighting,
 command line history, on-line help, filename completion, block operations,
 folding, unicode support, etc.
 .
 This package contains all of the vim software, tutor, syntax, and online
 documentation.

I would email Helmut Kolb for source.  In the case of the file search tool this is from Sharp and we don't have source.  If you want the source talk to Sharp.

2)"Makefiles and/or configure scripts not the actual sources":
I have compiled kernel for Cacko 1.22 (as described in  my-zaurus.narod.ru/; I have applied all patches in the given order, except hostap-driver..) a week ago. But my zImage has different size than the original one.
I have obtained:
108 4580 for boxer-cacko-j
and
104 2874 bytes  for boxer-cacko.

The original Cacko zImage.bin has 104 2788 bytes for C860.

So, I am not sure if my kernel could be safely (for my Zaurus) installed.
What do you think about it? How to compile the kernel to get exactly
the same file as in Cacko (as the first safely step to use my own kernels)?

This is probably best addressed by Maslovsky as I mostly handle the package feed.

3)I think that file updater.sh is very important for starting the system.
I do not know what is this (I have seen some information about this file,
but on sites not connected with Cacko- and Cacko is the best:P...),
where are sources of this file and what to do to get "compiled" updater.sh.
(I think that better all to know about it before installing a new kernel)
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Again PM Maslovsky.

Hope this helps,

-Bryan