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For Sale / Wanted / Wanted: C700, C750, C760 Or C860

« on: December 13, 2004, 09:40:09 pm »

Looking for a like-new condition C700, C750, C760 or C860 at a reasonable price.   Please send me a message if you've got something you want to sell.    

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Deals and Great Z Buys / Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

« on: December 09, 2004, 10:30:13 pm »

p.s. -- I've you've been scammed as well and are still "lurking", please speak up here or pm offroadgeek.  I plan to print out this thread to send with a letter to Jeff Bezos, CEO of Amazon.

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Deals and Great Z Buys / Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

« on: December 09, 2004, 10:22:50 pm »

Sorry to hear that milo--you have my sympathies...especially since you already had the legit Z6K's on order.

So jpettins made off pretty big.  How much?  18 from offroadgeek's tally, 1 from taronish, 3 Alloutte+son, and now 8 from milo617.

That's 30*$300=$9000 plus probably a whole lot more we don't know about.  Not bad for a couple days "work"

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Deals and Great Z Buys / Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

« on: December 09, 2004, 04:27:46 pm »

Isn't anyone interested in a group buy??

The chances that Amazon would do this would be remote even if they *had* the item in stock which they don't.

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Deals and Great Z Buys / Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

« on: December 09, 2004, 03:48:56 pm »

This is what I told folks to do on Monday, particularily if you used a debit card and have actually funds withdrawn from your account.  You may give up your A-Z rights, but so what if you get your money back today.   What is Amazon going to tell your bank--that the product could still arrive?  They already know the score and are just following their bureaucratic procedures at this point and earning interest on your money (while you pay it!).  If your bank wants more proof, print out a copy of this entire thread for their investigation    

I would also advise other folks to look at some of the eBay auctions if you are serious about a Z6K since you could probably get one with shipping for about $420--that's only $40 above the magic $379.

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Deals and Great Z Buys / Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

« on: December 08, 2004, 10:36:17 pm »

Well said, johnw...my sentiments exactly.  As with adf, I don't have a beef with the A-Z, but am really upset that Amazon's setup is so shoddy as to let this happen.  They've been around awhile, so there should be no excuses.  They should have a contingency for when a mass fraud like this occurs.

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Deals and Great Z Buys / Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

« on: December 08, 2004, 06:56:07 pm »

there is still an extremely slim chance that he may just be really busy (maybe traveling with work), and just hasn't had a chance to respond to a single email or ship the items.

Here is the email I received last Thursday afternoon:

------- Forwarded message follows -------
Date sent:         Thu, 2 Dec 2004 14:19:06 -0800 (PST)
From:              jack pettins <jpettins@yahoo.com>
Subject:           Re: Zaurus SL-6000
To:                shaubner @ mindspring.com

it went out priority about an hour ago

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Deals and Great Z Buys / Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

« on: December 08, 2004, 06:36:53 pm »

Actually, I think amazon is justified in keeping the money and holding to their a-z policy.  And it makes sense that its based on the latest possible receipt date, otherwise, people could initiate a refund on items bought too early and that person could end up with a refund and the item purchased.

I agree with that for the majority of situations where the seller may just be slow in shipment.  However, as I stated before, there is just too much info here to dispute that this is not a fraud.  There is a big difference between selling a few used DVD's for $1.33@ for 2 weeks and then pushing $300 consumer electronics in bulk.

Amazon has a responsibility to protect its customers from getting involved in situations like this in the first place.  They should provide a few days for the seller to respond and then if no contact is made then let the customer know that there may be a problem with their order.  How many of us would still be waiting for our Z6K if it weren't for this board?  How many poor folks are still out there waiting? I expect to be left out in the cold with eBay, but not Amazon.  The *least* they could do at this point is to acknowledge that an investigation is merited and not send a form email.

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Deals and Great Z Buys / Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

« on: December 08, 2004, 05:20:30 pm »

Most ebayers with established feedback ratings are legit.  I looked at a few listings, but they are typically over $400 at the end and with shipping around $430-$460.  Might look into a used c700 again.

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Deals and Great Z Buys / Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

« on: December 08, 2004, 03:34:04 pm »

It may be that jpettins signed up or transitioned his seller account to "Pro" since he was "offering" items in bulk

www.amazon.com/promerchant

It may have provided for a higher seller limit

Again, looking at Amazon's policies, after 14 days he would have been free to transfer the funds to his checking account at will.  He could have transferred everything this past weekend, and then withdrawn the money and closed his checking account (most likely under a fake ID) on Monday--just as folks would have started wondering where their packages were that supposedly shipped on Thursday...

About the feedback, it sometimes takes *me* weeks to post eBay feedback so these items may have been received over a week ago.

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Deals and Great Z Buys / Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

« on: December 08, 2004, 03:25:59 pm »

this guy really seems like a putz

Hey, easy there!

-->VPutz
(yes, my name really is "Vic Putz")

Sorry dude!

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Deals and Great Z Buys / Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

« on: December 08, 2004, 02:01:37 pm »

Fast shipping, great communication?? 

But he still screwed up that order!  And the other sale was misadvertised as well.

Anyway, looking at offroadgeek's tally thread the current total is 17 (Dec 8-14:00 EST)

That's 17x$300=$5,100 which is a lot more that the "limit" that gretchen said was in place, and the tally doesn't even count a few of the other folks that mentioned they had bought, nor any non-ZUGers.  Again, not sure for what duration this limit applies.

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Deals and Great Z Buys / Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

« on: December 08, 2004, 01:46:27 pm »

p.s.  More feedback today for jpettins -- this guy really seems like a putz

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Deals and Great Z Buys / Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

« on: December 08, 2004, 01:42:17 pm »

As I said yesterday, Amazon is a huge company and I'm sure that customer service is a semi-automated process where reps are sitting in a big cubicle farm and expected to quickly process 'x' number of responses per hour.  The only info they have is what pops up on their screen.  Furthermore, one of the three people I spoke to over the last few days was obviously in India, who was using a script and couldn't even understand me.  I'm sure the email processing is similar.

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Deals and Great Z Buys / Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

« on: December 08, 2004, 10:42:23 am »

I'm sorry for the miscommunication.  The limit is a dollar amount not a fixed number of sales.

gretchen--Is this a monthly limit?  weekly or daily?