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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Ooo!
« on: March 04, 2006, 05:29:42 pm »
Warning - adventurous only
Use at your own risk. Backup all your stuff. Be prepared for the worst - a total reinstall.

OK, I've got the install down to 18M.
Don't expect much, this is just a test.

I've been using it for a few days now and it seems stable and responsive.
Even though middle and right click don't work, I know why, it is still very usable.

I might have forgotten to include, or mistakenly excluded needed parts.
I have yet to encounter them, but I hardly use much of the software available.
Likewise, much of what is included is probably not needed.

NOTE: '-' is changed to '_' on upload
make sure your packages are named properly before you install.

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xorg-lib_6.9.0_armv5tel.ipk (next post)

Zaurus - pdaXrom / Gpm For Pdaxrom
« on: March 02, 2006, 03:05:51 pm »
I used this patch to add ts support to gpm, too bad it's only left button though.

Zaurus - pdaXrom / Some More Apps
« on: March 01, 2006, 06:30:09 pm »
The wheel is just buttons, but X on pdaXrom doesn't support those buttons without recompiling...

Does the mouse option to Xfbdev not work?

Accessories / Sd To Cf Adapter. Anyone Use These?
« on: March 01, 2006, 11:48:37 am »
I have a CF-SD adapter from Mittoni, see link in sig.
The don't sell the one I have anymore.
The SD card sticks out of it, and it is bigger than a CF card.
Despite it's large size, it does work well.
I have never had any problems with it.

I can't comment on it's use with Secure Digital protection scheme,
I have never tried.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Ooo!
« on: February 28, 2006, 02:13:42 pm »
1. How quick xorg in ordinary operations compared to original xfree?
ordinary operations like what?
opaque drag and resize is a little choppy.
   mrxvt, gvim, xfe, xpdf, conky, gqview, ddd all seem to run similar to xfree.
   xpilot is a little slow to start, but runs the same.
   xscorch seems the same,  gtkboard too.

It is hard to tell since I don't have 2 Zaurus machines to try side by side.
I need to do some tests with both to tell, and that might be a while yet.

I still havn't got middle and right mouse buttons recognized as set in
Although I havn't actually worked on it yet.  

2. What takes so much in your xorg build (37M)? libs, fonts?
I've managed to get it down to 30M, but I still have more to do.

4.6M    etc/
25M     usr/

5.6M    bin/
20M     lib/

9.0M    .
2.0M    X11
9.0M    modules

libOSMesa is the big lib (2.1M)
I still have a few multi versions I need to track and eliminate

2.6M    .
336K    fonts
425K    input
16K      linux
2.4M    drivers
140K    multimedia
3.2M    extensions

drivers should probably go and the big extension is GLcore (2.7M).
Much of input could also go.

2.0M    .
60K     etc
12K     x11perfcomp
8.0K    fonts/misc
189K    fonts/util
4.0K    fonts/75dpi
4.0K    fonts/local
4.0K    fonts/100dpi
4.0K    fonts/cyrillic
213K    fonts
120K    xedit/lisp/progmodes
224K    xedit/lisp
224K    xedit
8.0K    getconfig
1.4M    config

this I need to look into more, I don't know if config is needed for anything other than imake.

4.5M    X11
40K     fonts/

4.0K    Xsession.d
273K    app-defaults
4.0K    lbxproxy
4.0K    proxymngr
64K     rstart
4.0K    twm
156K    xdm
8.0K    xinit
2.9M    xkb
1.1M    xserver
4.0K    xsm

xkb could be trimmed, but I don't know yet.
xserver seems to contain printing locales and fonts I know nothing about.

What can be distributed separately from main package?
I'm not sure, but I would imagine quite a bit.

What is the minimal xorg size?
again, I don't know.
I think I need to build less of xorg.
I don't think I need some libs like:
libxrx, libxrxnest, libXinerama, libXevie, and the GL/Mesa libs.
I need to research it a bit.

3. What about RAM consumation compared to xfree?
Right now I can't compare it to xfree, since I don't have it installed.

at CLI before running X:
Mem: 36972K used, 24916K free, 0K shrd, 56K buff, 20552K cached
Load average: 2.16, 2.19, 2.15    (State: S=sleeping R=running, W=waiting)

doing nothing:
Mem: 42752K used, 19136K free, 0K shrd, 68K buff, 20856K cached
Load average: 2.43, 2.26, 2.17    (State: S=sleeping R=running, W=waiting)
1223 root     S <         9936  1222  0.0    16.0    X
4794 root     S            1112  4774  0.0     1.7     xcompmgr

drag opaque mrxvt:
Mem: 42924K used, 18964K free, 0K shrd, 68K buff, 20856K cached
Load average: 2.51, 2.29, 2.19    (State: S=sleeping R=running, W=waiting)
1223 root     R <         9936  1222 77.6    16.0    X
4794 root     S            1112  4774  3.3     1.7      xcompmgr

in all instances there are a few other programs running.

mrxvt, one displayed on the Zaurus and one on my desktop.
Zaurus - 4771 root     S       3192  4768  0.0  5.1 mrxvt
Desktop - 4684 root     R       3296  4683 12.9  5.3 mrxvt
 -- The high CPU is from my text selection, after I'm done it drops to 0

bash (x5), all are similar to this - 4656 root     S       1552     1  0.0  2.5 bash
conky -  4857 root     S       2164  4856  0.1  3.4 conky
top - 4832 root     R        720  4686  1.3  1.1 top
and of course, fvwm - 856 root     S       3276  4852  0.0  5.2 fvwm

/proc/1223# cat status
Name:   X
State:  S (sleeping)
Tgid:   1223
Pid:    1223
PPid:   1222
TracerPid:      0
Uid:    0       0       0       0
Gid:    0       0       0       0
CPU_Pid:        0
Pgd:    c3044000
FDSize: 32
Groups: 0
VmSize:     7704 kB
VmLck:         0 kB
VmRSS:      3984 kB
VmData:     2116 kB
VmStk:        68 kB
VmExe:      1472 kB
VmLib:      2992 kB
SigPnd: 0000000000000000
SigBlk: 0000000000000000
SigIgn: 8000000000301000
SigCgt: 0000000010006203
CapInh: 0000000000000000
CapPrm: 00000000fffffeff
CapEff: 00000000fffffeff

/proc/1223# cat pmem
  sbrk 184kB
  mmap 1236kB
 stack 68kB
  file 108kB
shared 0kB
 total 1596kB

start and quit after loaded.
$time startx.fvwm
real    0m13.051s
user   0m6.170s
sys     0m3.390s

Zaurus - pdaXrom / Ooo!
« on: February 28, 2006, 02:52:05 am »
These videos was shoot on zaurus??
I pointed a video camera at the Zaurus to capture the video.

Here is 2 more, zoomed out. With xcompmgr -c -f -r 2 -t 10 -l 10
Drag mrxvt
Open and close xfe menu
as you can see, opaque drag is a bit choppy.

Zaurus - pdaXrom / Ooo!
« on: February 27, 2006, 11:39:18 pm »
I imagine the fade in/outs must be slow or very few steps

It's not that bad.

here are some vids

open and close menu

open and close mrxvt

Zaurus - pdaXrom / Some More Apps
« on: February 27, 2006, 11:26:14 pm »
Could xbindkeys be used for the scroll wheel on a mouse?

I do it on my desktop.
I don't see why not on Zaurus.
The wheel is just buttons.

Zaurus - pdaXrom / Ooo!
« on: February 27, 2006, 02:06:38 pm »
xorg works!  
It still has a few quirks,
and it is way too big, ~37M  

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Need Help Configuring & Compiling Sdl_gfx
« on: February 26, 2006, 04:21:36 pm »
firstly thanks to both of you
i will try the ipks first ( thx!   ) - i don't know what sdl_gfx provides and what of this is needed by lincity-ng - i guess i'll see if it works and if not try to find another way


@dtruchan: i didn't notice the "dev" at first, what exactly did you compile? i presume that the "test"-ipk is the compiled contents of the "test"-folder in the SDL_gfx tarball - but what is the "dev"-ipk? is it dome kind of "devel"-package? because configuring lincity-ng exits with

configure: error: please install SDL_gfx >= 2.0.13

or: does the "devel"-ipk contain the "right" package and could this error be related to the errors you were mentioning?
or: do i have to adjust something else besides running ldconfig after ipkg install of your "devel"-ipk?

thx ia
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I appended the -dev suffix to denote that it is a development version, has includes and unstripped libs, rather than just a runtime version, no includes and stripped libs.  

try and run:
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export CFLAGS="-I/usr/include/SDL"before you run configure.

I had to do something similar to build the tests.  

Zaurus - pdaXrom / Some More Apps
« on: February 26, 2006, 11:56:16 am »
e3 a full featured text editor written in assembler, with keybindings matching Wordstar, EMACS, Pico, nedit and vi.  updated for pdaxrom.

xbindkeys links commands to keys or mouse buttons.

bvi a display-oriented editor for binary files.

gtksourceview a text widget that extends the standard gtk+ 2.x text widget.

openldev a graphical front-end to various Linux development tools. depends on gtksourceview.

motor a text mode based programming environment.

twin a text-mode windowing environment.

nativecoreutils  [ Invalid Attachment ]  for the busybox haters.
[, basename, cat, chgrp, chmod, chown, chroot, cksum, comm, cp, csplit, cut, date, dd, dir, dircolors, dirname, du, echo, env, expand, expr, factor, false, fmt, fold, groups, head, hostid, hostname, id, install, join, kill, link, ln, logname, ls, md5sum, mkdir, mkfifo, mknod, mv, nice, nl, nohup, od, paste, pathchk, pinky, pr, printenv, printf, ptx, pwd, readlink, rm, rmdir, seq, sha1sum, shred, sleep, sort, split, stat, stty, sum, sync, tac, tail, tee, test, touch, tr, true, tsort, tty, uname, unexpand, uniq, unlink, uptime, users, vdir, wc, who, whoami, yes

Zaurus - pdaXrom / Need Help Configuring & Compiling Sdl_gfx
« on: February 26, 2006, 11:07:55 am »
The configure script allows you to specify the location of SDL.

I built this package last week for wormux, it segfaults on TestFonts and TestRotozoom.
I have not traced the problem yet, so I would say it's not working.
Here it is anyway, if you want it.

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you will need to fix the package names before you install.
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SDL_gfx_dev = SDL-gfx-dev
SDL_gfx_test = sdl-gfx-test
- becomes _ when you upload.  

Zaurus - pdaXrom / !!! READ THIS !!!!
« on: January 29, 2006, 04:13:30 pm »
After booting the zaurus, besides scrolling being borked by the boot logo, suspend and resume work fast and flawless from the command line.  If I launch X into matchbox, suspend and resume work flawlessly, but are slow.  Then dropping to command line, suspend from button doesn't work anymore.
After booting if I launch X into Fvwm, or other window managers, suspend works fine and fast, but on resume the zaurus is unresponsive and suspends again.  When I resume again, zaurus is again unresponsive and application text dissapears, then it suspends again.  On the third resume, zaurus is OK.

This happens on RC11, RC12 and Beta1

Zaurus - pdaXrom / Gplflash 2, [working]
« on: January 20, 2006, 05:16:45 pm »

If you could, please post the steps you took to install it.

Zaurus - pdaXrom / Gplflash 2, [working]
« on: January 19, 2006, 09:05:23 pm »
Turns out deps are different for arm. automake sucks.  
libXxf86vm isn't built with X since it's not needed.

Let me know if it works.  
I havn't tried yet.

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The standalone player is not completed. It is currently targetted for debugging purpose.

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