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General Discussion / Software Archive For The Zaurus

« on: June 11, 2005, 05:15:59 am »

Hi offroadgeek/

That sounds like a great idea. I'd very much like to help out. I think that I personally would find an improved site very useful and hopefully other will to. A dev site where I can mess around with things sounds perfect for testing things out and seeing what we've got.

Thanks
Allan

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General Discussion / Software Archive For The Zaurus

« on: June 10, 2005, 09:47:39 pm »

Okay this is how I see it from this thread - the elsi is not what the community wants - major changes are needed in how it works and what it does. The developers think that the next step should build upon what is currently there, and the community at large doesn't really care as long as it does what they require.

I'm very interested in helping to build up a repository for Zaurus software - so I'm confused so to whether I should start work on a new one to replace elsi, or help develop the old one, if the developers will let me help out.

dz and offroadgeek: are you guys going to have time to work on the site? I know your time is pressured (as it is for us all) - but if you are going to work on the site, then I would like to work with you. If however, you are going to be able to do very little development I think it makes sense to start again. At least to build a small prototype and see what people think.

Thanks
Allan

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General Discussion / Software Archive For The Zaurus

« on: June 10, 2005, 09:49:49 am »

Regardless, all of these are easy fixes and I don't really think it's worth scrapping the entire thing instead of implementing the fixes.

Fair enough. One of the reasons I suggested starting again was because I am opposed to the idea  of bolting on extra features - I prefer actually designing them in from the start. Also - although I haven't actually seen the back end, from what little I can make out of it from the site, I have a few ideas which may help package maintainers, and incourage them to use the site.

It seems to me that not many people are actually aware of the site, and even fewer acutally use it...

A

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General Discussion / Software Archive For The Zaurus

« on: June 10, 2005, 06:54:57 am »

Hi all,

There seems to be a very definite split opinion about the elsi. General consensus is that the current site could be quite vastly improved. Please don't think I'm knocking all the hard work that has already been put into it - I'm not - I appreciate it and what the developers have done . But there are two camps about whether to remake it or continue developing the current one.

I've downloaded the CVS of the site (thanks for pointing that out dz) and had a look at the code. It is indeed very tidy, but it it a totally different style from my own, so it will take me a little bit to get used to it and start making any changes.

On the other hand - starting again (using the same database...) would probably take just as long to get a working site. But it has the advantage of integrating new features at the start - rather than bolting them on.

I have to also admit I'm not a huge fan of the elsi's ui. I agree that something simpler is required - where information can be easily accessed, quickly.

A

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General Discussion / Software Archive For The Zaurus

« on: June 09, 2005, 05:07:14 pm »

Okay it looks like the community feeling is to work upon the current site - I can't say I think the same way - I think we need to think about what it should include at the start rather than adding stuff on later on - but I'm very keen to help out improve the current site.

Dz: Is there any chance I could have a look at the source - the SourceForge site says there aren't any files for the project.

Thanks
Allan

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General Discussion / Software Archive For The Zaurus

« on: June 09, 2005, 11:21:05 am »

I have a machine ready for this function -- if someone else can put together people to manage the website, etc.

What I do not want to do is take away from any site such as ZUG, etc. What I do not want to do is to have to spend hours a day policing forums and/or deleting spam/pc/windows/virus uploads.

Awesome! Now we have a developer - and a server   Its a good start.

I completely agree - nothing should be taken away from ZUG, or OESF - I don't propose that we make new forums or anything like that, just a site for Zaurus software. Working together as a community.

We could even provide personalised feeds which people build up based up a set of rules (ie Sharp ROM 3.1, 5500...).

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General Discussion / Software Archive For The Zaurus

« on: June 09, 2005, 10:58:56 am »

Thats the problem with a lot of open source software, so much reinvention of the wheel. Why not fix whats obviously broken?

I did think about that - Roy mentioned in a different post that I found that he had opened the source for the elsix site. However, given how the site is (no offence to Roy - he's done a stirling job) I am of the opinion that it would be better of to start again - designing it from the ground up with the input of the community. Looking at the post announcing elsix.org, there is a lot of stuff there that should have been addressed in the design phase - and stuff that hasn't been implemented at all.

I can see why you think its a problem with open source - but it can also be an advantage... There is only really one site meant to be the central hub - and thats elsix.org - it replaces ZSI. But I think it can be done much better.

Of course if consensus is with your option then I will take a crack the source for elsix. Perhaps this could be elsix2?

Allan

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General Discussion / Software Archive For The Zaurus

« on: June 09, 2005, 09:59:51 am »

Hello all,

For a number of years now I've been using the Zaurus software index (www.killefiz.de/zaurus) for applications for my sl-5500. Now I've upgraded to a c1000, and I'm using the pdaxrom feeds for the software - I didn't realise until today that ZSI had been replaced by the Embedded Linux Software Index (www.elsix.org) - and it would appear that many are the same. I understand Roy who has been developing elsix.org doesn't have time to work on it any more and I was wondering if there was interest from others who would like to see a new central web-site for Zaurus software.

Key requirements:
    - Search - the index should be easily and fully searchable - almost google like in its simplicity
    - Platforms - the Zaurus community used to be rather compact, but its incredibly diverse now, and I would like to include a feature which will indicate which platform software has been created for, fully tested on and works on.
    - Easy interface - so we can use it from our Z's :-)
    - Feedback - (possibly using moderators) do dead links etc are removed
    - Version tracking for software - so each package is only mentioned once
    - Capture remote data from feeds - Feeds are used a lot now, but aren't all that helpful if you don't have access to the net from your Z. Collecting data from the feeds would save a lot of effort on the part of developers. And they could then go to the site and add information about the package (or use information from another package if its the same for a different rom etc).

Ideas taken from:
    - www.killefiz.de/zaurus - wonderful site, but a little lacking in some areas and not updated much
   - www.elsix.org - not updated much, a bit lack-luster.
   - www.versiontracker.com - wonderul site for macintosh software
   - www.rpmfind.net - very useful site for finding packages for a particular linux distro.

What do you all think?

Allan

- I'm not much of a software for an OS developer, I'm a web-developer, so this is a little way of giving something back to a very cool community...

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Ko/pi Crashing

« on: June 08, 2005, 05:22:42 pm »

pgas: Initally I clean forgot to uninstall the old one and neither would launch - then I remembers and v2 runs no problem - but simply crashes when trying to sync...

Chero: Thanks for the info. I wonder if its just a c1000 problem then - anyone else who uses KO/PI?

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Ko/pi Crashing

« on: June 08, 2005, 02:08:59 pm »

Thanks for the link. I wasn't using the new version - I was using the 1.9.5 from the C1000 feed. I tried installing v2.0.14 from the unstable feed... but the same problem occurs....

Allan

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Ko/pi Crashing

« on: June 08, 2005, 10:38:23 am »

There must be someone who uses PO/PI who can tell report on their luck with syncing? Anyone...

If not - what to you all use for calendar software?

Thanks
Allan

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Ko/pi Crashing

« on: June 06, 2005, 08:56:36 pm »

Hello all,

I've been playing with KO/PI on my c1000 with rc10. I was trying to set up a sync with a local file however KO/PI crashes as soon as I okay the sync. Have anyone else noticed this?

I also tried syncing with a remote file - I got the config slightly wrong and KO/PI crashed taking everything with it - the only way to recover was battery remove... Anyone noticed this?

Is there anything I can do?

Thanks
Allan

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / C1000 Rc10 Is Out

« on: May 26, 2005, 11:39:51 am »

Hello again,

Okay - I just managed to install Apache. I don't know that I did anything different, but it works now. However php doesn't... I installed the php module to no joy.

On a different note I've noticed that X tends to freeze on wake up if I pull out a card while its in sleep.

Also the right shift key doesn't work. And the /', key doesn't give a '

Thanks
Allan

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / C1000 Rc10 Is Out

« on: May 25, 2005, 11:34:16 am »

Ah - thanks for the correct feed. I got that confused by everything flying everywhere... Firefox on the c1000 is great!

Different problem now...

Has anyone managed to get Apache2 to work on this? I'm having real problems - it appears to be rooted in the apachectl script (the fact that its not there....)

Thanks
Allan

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / C1000 Rc10 Is Out

« on: May 25, 2005, 07:55:29 am »

Awesome work on the ROM! Thank you so much. I'll donate as soon as I have something in my PayPal account...

I've tried installing firefox_1.0_armv5tel.ipk on my c1000 and then running firefox from the command line - but nothing happens. No errors, no windows, nothing. Just straight back to the command prompt.

Thanks
Allan