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Gemini PDA - General Discussion / FlashTool for Linux released
« on: April 26, 2018, 10:48:42 pm »
Quote from: gidds
Roger that!

Lots of Unix stuff will run fine on macOS, either because it's just shell scripts and stuff, or because it's in source form and will compile fine.  Neither of which apply here, unfortunately…

(I really don't want to have to download a full Unix distro, free up a USB drive, install it to that, and boot from that simply to run the Flash Tool.  — Assuming it all works with Mac hardware, of course.)

Just download VirtualBox and a Linux ISO and install within your MacOS system. No need to reboot or mess with thumb drives.

Gemini PDA - Hardware / Puzzled about USB configuration
« on: April 26, 2018, 10:46:24 pm »
Quote from: Grench
Quote from: rgb
Quote from: Grench
Has anyone tried to:

Left USB C = Planet Computers hub.  Connect to keyboard, mouse, ethernet, charger.
Right USB C = Planet Computers HDMI adapter

Essentially desktop usage mode.

Can it charge through the PC hub on the left port?

I can confirm that it does not charge through the PC hub in the left port. Which means your scenario lacks a power source (and given the increased power drain, means that desktop usage is limited).

Slightly disappointing.

So - what it needs then is a replacement battery & battery cover to provide wireless battery charging and a charge plate ...  only partially kidding on that.

So, to make it work in a desktop application...
Left USB C to power (power has to exist or this is a fail)
Right USB to HDMI adapter to monitor
Bluetooth Keyboard & mouse.  Finding bluetooth keyboards that don't outright suck is challenging.  I found the Bastron to be loud but functional for my Samsung Galaxy Note 12.2 Android bluetooth tablet:

So - desktop use isn't entirely out of the question, but fully wired desktop use is a fail.

I apologize if this has been mentioned already but aren't there USB hubs that can provide power and also peripherals?

Here is Japanese Engadget reviewing it:

Here is a mention from Salon. No review, however:

Gemini PDA - Linux / Keyboard-friendly Linux desktop?
« on: March 24, 2018, 09:23:00 am »
The KDE window manager, KWin, is actually very keyboard friendly. Almost all of its dozens of features can be bound to keystrokes. It's got the flexibility to be a conventional wm when you want it as well and it can be configured via GUI.

KWin can be used with any other desktop environment as well. For low memory usage, I pair it with XFCE and the memory size is less than 300 MB.

For the bare minimum, you could run just KWin and xfdesktop, the XFCE background displayer. Gives you a great WM plus a desktop applications menu for launching.

Gemini PDA - Hardware / Keyboard comparisons
« on: March 18, 2018, 04:08:44 pm »
So for those who have a Gemini, how would you compare it to other devices?

I have a HP Jornada 720 and really love the keyboard on it compared to the Psion Series 5. It's interesting to me that you rarely see people who have experience with both.

The Jornada's has easier to press keys whereas the Psion's are harder. Aside from the color screen, the Jornada is easier for me to type on for long periods of time because the key travel and the actuation pressure are less than the Series 5.

Can we get just some keyboard comparisons on this thread?

I'm curious also because I'm told that the Series 5 keys were not always hard to press down. I wonder if the Gemini might have similar keyboard variations. It seems that way wrt the spacebar.

Quote from: JMD
There you go, boot up from Android

(For some reason I wasn't allowed to upload a video, dropbox link)


Super neat! So have you tried apt-get yet?

I would think that you could install GNOME Shell on there which has multi-touch support built in and is much more touch friendly.

Gemini PDA - General Discussion / Why buy the Gemini?
« on: March 16, 2018, 12:59:33 pm »
Here are my bullet points:
  • From an ergonomic perspective, typing on a hard piece of glass is a disaster. Glass is hard and damaging to your fingers which are not. I predict that in a few years, there will be tons more RSI and arthritis problems among people who used a slab phone for 20 or 30 years.

  • A keyboard is faster than swiping for those of us who use non-English languages with accents, or for people who have to type a lot of words that are not in the swiping dictionaries. Programming or server administration on a smartphone is an exercise in frustration. It's so much easier when you have a keyboard. Any programmer or admin who gets one of these things will thank themselves every day for doing it.

  • Multi-tasking is a total mess in Android and IOS. They both kill your apps randomly and give you no control. And Android lets shit start up by itself without you ever asking for it. With Linux, you choose what's open and what's not.  

  • If you like big displays, the size of the Gemini is also a nice plus. The 18:9 ratio is the future.

  • As for carrying around a keyboard, that's just dopey. They're bulky, you have to keep them charged, and they look mismatched and unsightly. With the Gemini, we have everything in one sleek package. I personally would have preferred a removable keyboard design that is also a clamshell (or something similar to the HTC 7 Pro) but from an engineering standpoint, these are much more complicated and will not happen unless Gemini 1.0 is a success. I'm not going to carry around an iPad Mini as my phone, either.

  • The software flexibility of the Gemini is also a fantastic selling point. I am looking forward to Sailfish on my device but I also could choose Debian, Ubuntu, Postmarket, or AOSP if I wanted to. The developer-friendly attitude of Planet Computers is wonderful and something that can keep this phone supported for much longer than short support lifespans of other Android devices. With open firmware, we can be installing any Linux on the device that we want for years to come.

  • Finally, I think there are a lot of people who are wary about the growing power and evilness of Google and Apple. These companies do not care about their customers' privacy and governments worldwide are looking to slurp up the cloud data that tech firms have hoarded for decades. With the Gemini, we will be able to have a device that does not impinge on our privacy.
A lot of times, people who are just used to buying whatever Apple or Samsung poops out have difficulty imagining how restricted their choices are. They mistake their own lack of imagination for savvy.

Quote from: 1668880
Quote from: ArchiMark
For those that got Debian running now, some screenshots would be fun to see.



I would but until I can figure out how to get the WiFi working I have no way of posting the screen shots. I can post a video tomorrow of it booting up.

Why not take the video with your other phone? Then you don't have to worry about wifi on the Gemini.  

Quote from: Guest
The Linux Support page has been updated - you can now download the following items:

- Flashing tool
- Flashing tool drivers
- Android firmware
- Debian firmware, technology preview version

Has anyone who has a Gemini actually tried Debian on it?

I don't think I've seen any reviews on here about the Linux experience. Lots of comments about what the Android is like though.

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