C760 860 Differences?

[relux]

Hey there, what is the difference between the C860 and the C760? There seems to be a $100 difference.  I started to look at the 5600 and then the 6000 but could not find decent priced 6000's. The S760 from what i've noticed is the same as a 6000 but not with usb host or integrated wifi. On the subject of host usb.  Do USB host cards work? I am looking to connect my sprint phone to the 760..

Also, wheres best place to get the 760 NEW?


thanks guys!

[Stubear]

The C760 amd C860 are exactly the same harware wise. The color is slightly different and the C860 has some software that wasn't available on the C760 (mainly the translation software)

Sharp no longer makes the C760 so you won't be able to get it new unless you find a seller that has some stock sitting around still.

You can pick up second hand C760 for around 30,000 yen in Japan at the moment and C860 for about 35,000 yen

Stu

[bluedevils]

The 860 has the ability to act like a card reader though this is a moot point because you can just change the rom and get the same feature on the 760

[lardman]

You don't even need to change the ROM. If you want you can copy the storage_fd.o module and insmod it from the command line using a script.

Same holds true for all Zaurii in fact.


Si

[Stubear]

The 860 has the ability to act like a card reader though this is a moot point because you can just change the rom and get the same feature on the 760
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Ah Sorry, I've been doing that for so long on my C760 (as lardman explains) I'd forgotten that it wasn't native to the C760

Stu

[kmoney]

Ok then, is there any way at all to get 802.11b networking WITHOUT using the CF slot?  Can't use the sd cuz it's not sdio right?  Is there anything that could do so thru the zaurus usb-client plug, since the aircable seems to provide bluetooth connectivity in this manner?  

Thx, I'm just trying to find a way to have wireless and my CF microdrive both working at the same time.

[kahm]

Ok then, is there any way at all to get 802.11b networking WITHOUT using the CF slot?  Can't use the sd cuz it's not sdio right?  Is there anything that could do so thru the zaurus usb-client plug, since the aircable seems to provide bluetooth connectivity in this manner? 

Thx, I'm just trying to find a way to have wireless and my CF microdrive both working at the same time.
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C-Guys have a beta driver for their sd 802.11b card. It is apparently a little flakey, and may not work with the cacko rom at all.

I doubt there is a way to make a Wi-Fi card that hooks up to the Sharp port. The aircable is acutally a serial device, and they can get away with it because BT is actually a low bandwidth serial protocol. As Wi-Fi is supposed to be a high bandwidth protocol, I don't think a serial connection will run fast enough to even try to use it.

[matrix]

Ok then, is there any way at all to get 802.11b networking WITHOUT using the CF slot?  Can't use the sd cuz it's not sdio right?  Is there anything that could do so thru the zaurus usb-client plug, since the aircable seems to provide bluetooth connectivity in this manner? 
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there's nothing you can do to get 802.11b off the zaurus connector.  

the aircable works by plugging into the serial port circuitry and shows up on the z as it's basic internal serial port.  instead of the traditional cable, you have a direct bluetooth connection to another device using the standard bluetooth serial profile.  all the bt stuff is handled internally on the aircable and not presented to the zaurus.  

you can't (afaik) use an aircable to connect to a pan device, or to transfer files via obex because the bluetooth stack is embedded in the device

also, many bluetooth chipsets are serial based, when plugged into the system they appear as a serial port (most pcmcia/cf cards work this way) and the bluetooth stack for linux can handle them.  tdk made a serial port bluetooth device for regular computers that worked like this i think.  

but 802.11b is a different beast.  i've not seen an 802.11b controller that could operate as a usb host or via a serial interface.  well, short of basically a full system


if you're z has a usb-host port, you're in a better position.  my own experience with
802.11b usb adapters has been horribly painful, and i'd much rather use it for a pocket hdd and leave my wifi card in the z.

if you're not looking for a pocket-sized solution, you could take an older laptop with a good battery and carry it around in your bag as a portable access point and mount the drive over wifi   there's at least one company out there that sells an external drive enclosure with wifi built in too (you'd have to provide your own battery)

too bad 802.11 can't connect to multiple access points, or you could really have some fun with that!

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[kahm]

there's nothing you can do to get 802.11b off the zaurus connector. 

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but 802.11b is a different beast.  i've not seen an 802.11b controller that could operate as a usb host or via a serial interface.  well, short of basically a full system


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You're absolutely correct. For people with too much money you can get the "full system" as micro-embedded linux system. Someone was posting a link the other day to the Picotux - a linux computer embedded into an RJ45 connector. It's other interface is a serial port. One of the options you could get was a wireless version.

Sooooo...Theoretically you could ppp into the picotux over serial and use it as your wireless connection.  

Yes, I know it's a silly idea, but it's actually the first thing I thought of when I first saw this topic