Author Topic: 2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported  (Read 111072 times)

jochen-02

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 35
    • View Profile
2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
« Reply #195 on: January 18, 2007, 01:42:45 pm »
Quote
I don't know if the flash controllers on the cards understand the fat filesystem enough to do any special wear levelling, but that might be the case and explain why cards seem to wear out quicker using ext3.
No, I think the reason is journal updates.
--
Jochen SL-C1000 (Sharp ROM)

Antikx

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1147
    • View Profile
    • http://tyrannozaurus.com
2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
« Reply #196 on: January 18, 2007, 02:10:40 pm »
Quote
With my soldering skills, I'd be more likely to neuter him!   
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=151475\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Kanpai,
-Antikx (Twitter, Mugshot and PodNova)
C1000 - pdaXrom R198 (Celestial Environment)
tyrannozaurus.com
[img]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/files/category_pictures/general_1.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-sig-image\" /]
Zaurus news/blogs feed from Zaurus users
Free Windows, Linux, or Web RSS readers.
Featured pages at tyrannozaurus:
Sharp Petition, ScummVM, Cacko, pdaXii13, and Celestial Environment

Antikx

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1147
    • View Profile
    • http://tyrannozaurus.com
2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
« Reply #197 on: January 18, 2007, 02:14:50 pm »
Quote
Yes. The main difference between ext2 and ext3 is journalling. ext3 is ext2 with added journalling feature. Which advantages do you expect from journalling on a PDA?
Since journal updates accures quite frequent it in fact may add much wear to a flash memory card.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=151547\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Perhaps I'm ignorant but I thought journaling might be good on flash memory so that it lowers the chance of something getting corrupt if you have it open when you need to cold boot your Zaurus because of a crash. *shrug* Maybe I'm mistaken.
Kanpai,
-Antikx (Twitter, Mugshot and PodNova)
C1000 - pdaXrom R198 (Celestial Environment)
tyrannozaurus.com
[img]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/files/category_pictures/general_1.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-sig-image\" /]
Zaurus news/blogs feed from Zaurus users
Free Windows, Linux, or Web RSS readers.
Featured pages at tyrannozaurus:
Sharp Petition, ScummVM, Cacko, pdaXii13, and Celestial Environment

InSearchOf

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1144
    • View Profile
    • http://
2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
« Reply #198 on: January 18, 2007, 02:32:43 pm »
Quote
Quote
Yes. The main difference between ext2 and ext3 is journalling. ext3 is ext2 with added journalling feature. Which advantages do you expect from journalling on a PDA?
Since journal updates accures quite frequent it in fact may add much wear to a flash memory card.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=151547\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Perhaps I'm ignorant but I thought journaling might be good on flash memory so that it lowers the chance of something getting corrupt if you have it open when you need to cold boot your Zaurus because of a crash. *shrug* Maybe I'm mistaken.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=151554\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Journaling is GOOD! very good... but for a device (SD and CF) with a "write life" you dont want to waste its life span on journal writes...

Late
Sharp Zaurus SL-C3100 and SL-6000L
pdaXrom Developer
Please visit pdaXrom.org for updates
My Blog
IRC #pdaxrom @ FreeNode

speculatrix

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3707
    • View Profile
2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
« Reply #199 on: January 18, 2007, 04:27:04 pm »
Quote
Yes. The main difference between ext2 and ext3 is journalling. ext3 is ext2 with added journalling feature. Which advantages do you expect from journalling on a PDA?
Since journal updates accures quite frequent it in fact may add much wear to a flash memory card.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=151547\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

it's also vital to check that your flash card is mounted "noatime" too so that every file or directory access doesn't result in updating the timestamps.
Gemini 4G/Wi-Fi owner, formerly zaurus C3100 and 860 owner; also owner of an HTC Doubleshot, a Zaurus-like phone.

speculatrix

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3707
    • View Profile
2gb And Up Sd Cards Supported
« Reply #200 on: January 18, 2007, 04:31:22 pm »
Quote
Quote
Yes. The main difference between ext2 and ext3 is journalling. ext3 is ext2 with added journalling feature. Which advantages do you expect from journalling on a PDA?
Since journal updates accures quite frequent it in fact may add much wear to a flash memory card.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=151547\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Perhaps I'm ignorant but I thought journaling might be good on flash memory so that it lowers the chance of something getting corrupt if you have it open when you need to cold boot your Zaurus because of a crash. *shrug* Maybe I'm mistaken.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=151554\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

it's a balance. I'd hope that you don't lock up your Z too often, but if you are, then journalling would probably be a good thing - however, if you are really thrashing your memory cards with writes, you probably ought to get a microdrive. I'd rather get a corrupted memory card and reformat and replace its contents than have the card go bad.

Anyway, I would never keep the master and only copy of data on a memory card in case it goes bad or the device its in gets lost or stolen. I had a nice Viking ultra-hi-speed card stolen in a TomTom GO just before xmas
Gemini 4G/Wi-Fi owner, formerly zaurus C3100 and 860 owner; also owner of an HTC Doubleshot, a Zaurus-like phone.