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« on: February 05, 2005, 02:11:24 am »
Usually when I reboot, it opens set system time only. Today, when I reboot, it opens set system time and email in the background. I also get memory error message like:
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Memory Error
Cannot execute the operation
due to low availability memory
on the Internal Flash.
Delete unnecessary files on the Internal Flash
to increase availability memory,
and retry it.

Where can I look at? I checked system info and, yes, the storage is full (used 29696, available 0). I open a terminal and delete some process like addressbook, zimage, datebook, etc), the Internal Flash is still full. Can anyone point me a direction?
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2005, 02:26:34 am »
zimage?

try using th package manager to uninstall software.
also use the filemanager or doctab to look through your directories and delete or move files that are eating up internal space. remove as much removeable software as you can, then reinstall as much of it as you can to your sd card.

If all else fails, I'd consider doing a nand reset to its original state and then reinstalling every bit of software that will go to sd to sd instead of internal flash, then trying to store stuff on the sd instead of the internal flash. There appaernetly some risk of bricking a z this way, though..so do it at your own risk and a s a last resort


others may have better ideas, they might be worth waiting for before you re-flasjh your z
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2005, 05:39:14 am »
You may have troubles with ipkg not being able to open/write its status file as you have no free flashROM space. In this case I'd do an 'ipkg files <package name>' for a package which you are going to remove anyway, then delete the largest of those files by hand, then use 'ipkg remove' to remove the rest (and others), then re-install packages to a storage card as adf said above.


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I open a terminal and delete some process like addressbook, zimage, datebook, etc), the Internal Flash is still full.

Depending on your ROM the addressbook, datebook binaries may be symlinks (which don't take up much space). The zImage was probably on a CF card...?
« Last Edit: February 05, 2005, 05:40:21 am by lardman »
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2005, 03:45:09 pm »
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then delete the largest of those files by hand

How do I do this? I mean, where is the internal flash? Thanks!
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2005, 06:49:53 am »
If it's the same as my C750 then there are two flashROM partitions - one is mounted at /home and is used for personal files etc. (I don't think this is the one which is full on your machine, but it may be). The other is mounted at / and comprises everything else (except for /home).

Could you post the output of 'mount' and 'df' run in a terminal please (I don't have a 6000 so I'm just guessing that the locations are the same - the above info will tell me).


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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2005, 11:33:38 am »
I don't have my z6k with me now. But I do manage to uninstall some packages and I have about 400k left. I will post the output of "mount" and "df" when I have access to it.

I got impression (from other posts) of some packages do not work when installed in CF or SD. It is a little bit of cumbersome.
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2005, 12:49:32 pm »
Have you purged the opera browser cache? (should probably set the disk cache to 0k since we're dealing with flash ram here). Also purge your .bash_history and any other temp files you may have.

The cache is located in the .opera directory in ~zaurus

good luck

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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2005, 01:50:05 pm »
Thanks Tyris! I will do that too. So from now on, I have to be careful with those details?
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2005, 02:17:32 pm »
The 6000 user space (/home) is small (~32mb) compared to the clamshells (~96 - +2GB).  I have seen some threads where people reconfigure the Z to use an SD card for /home.  That should give you more room to grow.  I haven't done it so I can't confirm. A search should help you.
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2005, 02:26:36 pm »
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Thanks Tyris! I will do that too. So from now on, I have to be careful with those details?
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Once you keep in mind that you're writing to flash ram for useless stuff like web caching it just makes sense to minimize it. Granted the internal flash should last a very very long time with normal use, I've tried to minimize the amound of wear and tear mine receives.

I've moved ~zaurus, /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/lib, and the entire /opt/qtopia directory onto an SD card formatted with ext2. This sd card is now not really removable (as the lion's share of the GUI interface resides there). The primary benefit is that I can now install 256M of software as if it were internal flash without adding undue wear and tear to a non replaceable part.

You can search my posts as I documented my adventures doing that

I've backed up the SD card by suspending the zaurus, and sticking the SD into my desktop's card reader and making a tar.bz2 file out of it. SD fit the bill better than CF here because some CF cards seem to be unmounted on suspend. I dont recommend doing this for the faint of heart, but if you know your way around the Z's file system you should be OK.

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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2005, 02:29:22 pm »
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The 6000 user space (/home) is small (~32mb) compared to the clamshells (~96 - +2GB).  I have seen some threads where people reconfigure the Z to use an SD card for /home.  That should give you more room to grow.  I haven't done it so I can't confirm. A search should help you.
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Becareful moving all of /home -- this could render your 6000 unbootable!
You should move only the directories you need out of home, not necessarily /home itself.
See my old thread about this topic.

-T
« Last Edit: February 07, 2005, 02:33:26 pm by Tyris »

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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2005, 04:25:29 pm »
I'm sorry for the false information.  I must have remembered your thread wrong.
I'm now an iphone user and use my zaurii as serial terminals, perl and shell scripting and when I need 640x480 screens

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