Kde-pim/pi 2.0.16 Release

[ev1l]

I'm thrilled just to have it, but now that I'm using it, it would probably work better as a first-class view (like day, workweek, month) with its own icon.  Switching back-and-forth from month-view-in-month-mode and month-view-in-week-mode is cumbersome.  When I hit the "month view" button and context-switch from some other mode (journal entry etc) I don't expect to see only a week's worth of events.  Plus the navigation metaphor is broken: the "<" and ">" buttons on top of the view take you to the next <b>month</b>, so from the week beginning Feb14 I get to the week beginning Mar 14.   Whereas the same buttons on the window toolbar go to next week and next month.  It's unintuitive and confusing.

While some people may find navigating to this-week-in-next-month useful, the most likely thing for a user to want to see is the next week and there's no button to do that.  In that sense there should be 3 buttons in week mode: ">" (next week), ">>" (next month) and ">>>" (next year).

So I'm lobbying for 1) making it an independent view with a button on top, and 2) allowing the user to select which buttons appear on the toolbar, since they already run out of room in portrait mode on my C860.  I never use the journal & list view buttons, for instance, which would allow me to see the navigation buttons without having to click through to the continuation dropdown menu.

You can select which buttons you want already (though you need to restart), and the arrow always increments by the number of days currently displayed (so it'll give you next week in week view, and month in month view, etc). I'm not sure I get what you want.

[dwchapin]

You can select which buttons you want already (though you need to restart), and the arrow always increments by the number of days currently displayed (so it'll give you next week in week view, and month in month view, etc). I'm not sure I get what you want.

Nope.  From the week-within-month view the ">" button right above the view  (ie: right next to where it says "February '05") goes a month ahead, skipping over 3 or 4 weeks.  The ">" button in the top row (the one alongside the month, journal etc buttons) behaves correctly, going only a week ahead.  But the ones right on top of the view jump a month ahead even though you're viewing a week.  This is true both on the 2.0.6 version on my laptop as well as the 2.0.4 version on my Z.

What I'm after, besides fixing/rationalizing the button behavior, is to make the new nifty week view a fully-fledged view with its own viewing button rather than merely a state of the month view (which to me makes no sense).  It's basic human interface guidelines stuff that if you have a button at the top of the page that is for a "Month view" that when I click on it I always expect to view a month worth of dates.  But now if I've left it in the week view state and I want to see a month view, I have to (1) hit "M" or click on the month icon, and then (2) move the mouse/grab the stylus (no keyboard shortcut for toggling between week-of-month & month?) to the far right and click the tiny number "7" in order to toggle back to the full month view I wanted in the first place.

I didn't know you could select which buttons appeared, so that's good news.  Thanks.

[ev1l]

i can't seem to get opiemail to fetch my POP mail (2.0.6)
is there anything changed in that part of the code?
I'm going to try and reset my server settings, but I don't think that's the problem.
Edit: yeah, sharp app gets my mail just fine, but my pop server in kopimail is borked.

[nilch]

I used OMPI with the Cacko 1.22 lite release after having not installed the SHARP mail application.

All in all - it works fine (with my POP3 accounts), but there were some issues I think could be ironed out - some issues are simple layout issues , others more substantial.

I made a thread out here called OMPI Feedback
and cross  linked it here so everyone and Zautrix in particular can get the feedback.

Thanks

[Flandry]

I had problems with my previous cacko 1.22 full installation that were obviously unrelated to /pi stuff, but now that i reinstalled the Cacko 1.22 lite distribution, it's obvious that the /pi apps are to blame for some troubles.  Specifically, until i installed the KO/pi alarm applet, i had no crashing problems.  Now, every morning, after (or sometimes perhaps before) the alarm goes off, Qtopia crashes.  I noticed today that there was a whole listing of errors on a black screen along the lines of "Could not open sound port ****" or something like that when i opened up the Z, just before Qtopia restarted.

[ev1l]

I'm running through my previous buglist again so I can post a new one.
The first post's updated with 2.0.15, have a go at it
Still temporary (running through both my personal list, this one and SF.net's):

Bugs

• Kapi <-> DTM sync appears not to be working.*needs status update*
  I got a universal doubles when DTM-synching and choosing remote over local.
• Kopiemail: the recipient selection window (the one you get from the "to" button) uses the orientation used at application startup, not the current orientation.

Quirks

• Kapi: Contact display (in the preview pane) is *really* slow when the contact picture is not minimalistic in size. A 40k pic causes a 4 secs delay in the switch). Might be a good idea to either thread the display (the card appears with the image still loading, like a webpage) or cache the thumbnail image.
• Kapi doesn't provide a way to associate itself with vCards on the Z (haven't checked behaviour on windows or x86 linux). *Will not be fixed*   Isn't that one of the primary tasks of a PIM app?
• Kopi:alarm before an allday even defaults at midnight (actually, 10 to midnight). Not really nice. Might be useful to have a default alarm time for allday events, and be able to specify the time of the day for the alarm, instead of the period of time between the alarm and midnight on the allday event. This is especially useful for things like birthdays. *Will be fixed later, maybe.*
• PWM: cannot be installed to memory card.

RFE

• Kapi:Provide more IM fields so each contact can have a protocol-specific nickname. The most widespread protocols are AIM/ICQ, Gadu-Gadu, Groupwise, IRC, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. Doing this now will also ease IM integration down the road (with something like Kopete or Gaim). *will not be changed* The obvious solution is to port Kopete and integrate it, damnit.  
• Kapi: Replace the search settings dropbar with the category dropdown in portrait mode. Seems a lot more useful, but I might be missing something. Let me know. *Will not be changed* too bad. (queue sad dog-eyes... could we have that as a user option, puuuhlease?).
• Kopi: Re-sort todo items after an item edit so that items stay sorted. *needs status update*

[JoP]

I've been trying kde/PIM and I'm in love with it  
But there's a request I'd like to make, since I work 3 days and then I get 2 free days.
(yes, it's a nice working schedule   )
This means my weeks are five days long and I don't really mind if it's saturday or sunday, then: could it be possible to have an option to set week length or something to user needs?
I'd really like to find this option in a calendar app at last, and ko/PI is great in any other way.
Thanks for your awesome work!

[ev1l]

Look in the options, you can set the timespan for several views.
Since you have a 5500, could you check that all the option screens fit at quarter-VGQ resolution? Thanks.

[JoP]

Ok, Default and Cancel buttons fell out of the screen (behind the taskbar) by, let's say, 12 points. This doesn't happen in Ka/Pi though.

I don't see what I need anywhere in the options.
What I'd like to see is an option in Work week or somewhere, asking how many days are there in working week and how many free days (it could default to 7 days in week and 2 free days, what is usual), so I could have my working shift in the calendar: 3 work, 2 free, 3,2,3,2, etc.
I don't know if I can explain well my idea right now, I just woke up  

[ev1l]

Ok, Default and Cancel buttons fell out of the screen (behind the taskbar) by, let's say, 12 points. This doesn't happen in Ka/Pi though.

Which screen? Try to figure out what you did before the at happened, then fill a bug-report.

Bugs/annoyances that I'd like comments on:

• Kapi: how do I permanently disable sticky-shift so I can select a single contact after selecting several of them?
• Kapi: changing filters seems to change which columns are displayed. Haven't found how to reproduce this yet.
• Kapi: What determines wether a category gets a default filter or not? I have a custom category with a filter I can't remove, and when I created a new one, it didn't create the repective default filter.
• Kapi: the SyncEvent filter is a bit useless.
• Kopi: what the hell is PHB category? Pointy-haired boss?
• Kopi: reorganise the menu, include a settings submenu like Kapi.
• Kopi: some view options are under the wrong tabs.
• Kopi: todo creation/edit window title should be the item's summary.
• Kopi: What's "show vertical screen"? Doesn't seem to do anything.
• Kopi: you get the context menu even when resizing events in agenda view.
  
• Pwmpi: the sorting is bugged and differenciates between items with a Capital as first character and those without.

I have quite a few bugs lined up for Kopiemail, but I'd like to know what the application's focus is, before I start reporting things that Zautrix is not interested in fixing  
The feeling I get is that the kopiemail codebase was pretty bad to start with, so fixing everything is a bit aggravating.

[zautrix]

Bugs/annoyances that I'd like comments on:

• Kapi: how do I permanently disable sticky-shift so I can select a single contact after selecting several of them?

I do not know that

• Kopi: what the hell is PHB category? Pointy-haired boss?

Yes, you are right.

• Kopi: reorganise the menu, include a settings submenu like Kapi.

• Kopi: some view options are under the wrong tabs.

That may be. The problem is, that the size of each TAB is limited.

• Kopi: todo creation/edit window title should be the item's summary.

Well, I am using the title as a status line. This is needed to display some alarm info

• Kopi: What's "show vertical screen"? Doesn't seem to do anything.

Needs a restart. Will layout the todo view left of he main views.

• Kopi: you get the context menu even when resizing events in agenda view.

I nerver noticed that bug. It is only valid for the first click on the agenda view. Thanks for reporting.

• Pwmpi: the sorting is bugged and differenciates between items with a Capital as first character and those without.

Ok, I will look at this.

[/list]I have quite a few bugs lined up for Kopiemail, but I'd like to know what the application's focus is, before I start reporting things that Zautrix is not interested in fixing 
The feeling I get is that the kopiemail codebase was pretty bad to start with, so fixing everything is a bit aggravating.

Hmm. I believe I have given up on fixing everything in KOpieMail. There is just too much which is not working.

[JoP]

Which screen? Try to figure out what you did before the at happened, then fill a bug-report.

I did nothing, it's just when I get into menu options (Menu/Action/Configure) that those buttons are too low in the screen so lower part of them is behind taskbar.

What about my 'little' request?

What I'd like to see is an option in Work week or somewhere, asking how many days are there in working week and how many free days (it could default to 7 days in week and 2 free days, what is usual), so I could have my working shift in the calendar: 3 work, 2 free, 3,2,3,2, etc.
I don't know if I can explain well my idea right now, I just woke up 

Do you guys think it could be possible (and easy) to get something like this?  

[ev1l]

• Kopi: what the hell is PHB category? Pointy-haired boss?

Yes, you are right.

Brilliant.

• Kopi: reorganise the menu, include a settings submenu like Kapi

• Kopi: some view options are under the wrong tabs.

That may be. The problem is, that the size of each TAB is limited.

DO you want me to build a draft of an improved menu and configuration screen? I also realised that most of the misplaced items belonged under tabs that were pretty crowded already.

• Kopi: todo creation/edit window title should be the item's summary.

Well, I am using the title as a status line. This is needed to display some alarm info

I'll look at it again. There might be a better way to do that.

[ev1l]

• Kopi: What's "show vertical screen"? Doesn't seem to do anything.

Needs a restart. Will layout the todo view left of the main views.

Hmm, I thought I restarted it after trying it out. Will try again, sorry for the misreport.

I have quite a few bugs lined up for Kopiemail, but I'd like to know what the application's focus is, before I start reporting things that Zautrix is not interested in fixing 

Hmm. I believe I have given up on fixing everything in KOpieMail. There is just too much which is not working.

That's what I thought. Maybe you should look for another mail client to port to the Z. Kmail is a bit massive, thought

Sorry for the double posting, but the forum software doesn't seem to enjoy having large numbers of quotes rammed down its throat.

[ev1l]

More spam: I just noticed the pi-sync forums were offline, how come?