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The FCC has the manual for the SL-6000
« on: January 09, 2004, 09:24:55 am »
The FCC has the manual for the SL-6000

Now I guess it\'s only a matter of time to see what the price will be. And if regular people will be able to buy it, not just companies.  I have my eye on the 6000D model so far.

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https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/bl...tive_or_pdf=pdf


Product Specs

https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/bl...tive_or_pdf=pdf

I\'m wondering why Sharp would stick to the PXA255 processor when the PXA261 and 263 are out?

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2004, 11:43:38 am »
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2004, 12:34:11 pm »
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I\'m wondering why Sharp would stick to the PXA255 processor when the PXA261 and 263 are out?

Because there is a significant amount of lead time in developing a product like the Zaurus, the PXA255 was available when they started development, the PXA26* were probably not. Also from what I recall the PXA26* do not have a significant performance increase as compared to the PXA255, they have a higher level of integration. Depending on what pricing Sharp can get from Intel, it might have been more cost effective to use the PXA255 with external peripheral chips.
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2004, 01:44:54 pm »
I think I want one. Although I am very intrested to see what the next clam version will feature.

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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2004, 02:55:54 pm »
I really love the way the manual lists the stylus in the contents bit as being \"inserted in the unit\".

Then we skip to step one which explains how to use the stylus to flick the little switch, and press the reset button.

Then we skip to step two, which starts by telling you how to remove the stylus  

By the way, this is the first time I have ever read a manual before playing with the machine.

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2004, 02:56:46 pm »
Oh, so now there are essentially 4 models of the SL-6000 to be released in the US. That great.

Since I dont own a C7xx, is this correct that the 2nd model of the SL-6000 is the same as the C7xx or C860 in memory configuration ?

How much of a difference is there in having a flash area of 64MB against 128MB ?
If the prices of the low end models are in the bracket of $650 - $700 (acc to the japanese site in another thread), I guess that makes it pretty competitive to the imported C860 since they are basically the same except for the form factor and the bigger keyboard.

In fact the SL-6000 also seem to have a better screen than the C860 in the sense that its is a transflective or someting) which can be read in bright daylight unlike the C7xx. Or at least that was my understanding. How true is it ?

Guess have to read the full specs now.
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2004, 03:15:41 pm »
I couple of interesting points I noted.

1) The usb host connector is described as \"Enables connection to specified sharp  products\"  

2) There is a europe secction at the end of the manual, could this actually make it to the UK  

At least once it is releasded we may get a fully english addrees book that can actually sort the contents by name for the c7x0 range.

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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2004, 03:39:15 pm »
God bless the FCC.  I wonder how many products they\'ve leaked before their time.  

Reading thru the specs, the 6000 sounds pretty sweet.

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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2004, 03:42:29 pm »
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Since I dont own a C7xx, is this correct that the 2nd model of the SL-6000 is the same as the C7xx or C860 in memory configuration ?

How much of a difference is there in having a flash area of 64MB against 128MB ?

That is correct... the 6000D has the same 128/64 mem config as the 760/860 models.

IMO - the extra ram is much needed, especially with the x11 rom (as the apps seem to be a bit bigger than the qt ones).  I\'ve already filled up the ram from installing all the apps on the x11 rom.  I haven\'t really come close  with the qt roms though...

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In fact the SL-6000 also seem to have a better screen than the C860 in the sense that its is a transflective or someting) which can be read in bright daylight unlike the C7xx. Or at least that was my understanding. How true is it ?

That\'s correct.. the 6000\'s have the transreflective screen, which is nicer than the C series, and it\'s a bit larger at 4 inches.

Even with the larger and transreflective screen, I still prefer the clamshell form factor.  I don\'t think I could go back to the other form factor.  My poor 5500 is quite neglected
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2004, 04:41:18 pm »
Hello everyone i\'m the one who posted the original thread... I forgot to login. heheheh.

I have to agree with offroadgeek that even with the extra goodies, the clamshell form factor still has more appeal. I\'m hoping that the introduction of the 6000 series will lower the price of the 7x0. or the 860 for that matter.

zbones: I\'ve been on the market for a PDA for the last 6 months, and believe me, i\'ve read every manual out there.  That\'s why i was so discouraged from PPC or Palm (i do have a clie though).  I\'m still searching for the right pda.  So far Zaurus seems like the sensible solution ;-)
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2004, 05:54:53 pm »
kwaiFeh,

When I bought 5500 it was linux that made me buy it, and the keyboard clinched the deal.

These two points alone made it the only choice availible.

The manual for my 760 is in japanese, so is totally useless to me  :shock:

If you want more out of your machine than just a PDA, then the zaurus is the one to get.  The only problem is which model to get.  That\'s why I own two.  

People keep asking me if I want to sell my 5500, but I can\'t bear to part with it. It\'s now my \"development box\" and my 760 is my \"live box\"

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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2004, 06:18:10 pm »
Since they seem to be making four different models, why couldn\'t they make them with all the combinations of WiFi and Bluetooth? The SL-6000D should have Bluetooth rather than 128MB of Flash since that can be expanded with memory cards and then the range would satisfy everyone\'s requirements. I only want Bluetooth at this time and would buy a WiFi CF card later if needed. The SL-6000W is going to be way out of my price range

It\'s also a shame that none of the models have consumer IR, but I guess that musn\'t be a priority for Enteprises...
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2004, 07:03:25 pm »
Blue tooth seems to be a european thing really.  

The US has loads of wifi hotspots everywhere from coffee shops to trains.

On my 40 minute drive to work through Leeds, which is not a small city, I pass only 5 hotspots, all have WEP and are very definately private lans.

The only AP I have ever connected to is my own.  I took my z to the annual storage expo in the Olympia this year, expecting to have a wifi hotspot provided as a courtesy, no chance.  There were quite a few wirless networks around, but no public ones.

If this was in the states I would have been online in seconds.

Likewise, the Japanese don\'t use bluetooth much either.  It\'s not a big priority for Sharp.

Incidentally I don\'t understand why Sharp charge so much for a few extra kb of storage anyway :shock:

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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2004, 10:40:34 pm »
you know, alot of these features are pretty exciting, but the one that really stands out, to me anyways, is the usb host... very interesting stuff if you ask me...

i like that its got the pxa255 ... but given that sharp is actually moving backwards with their screen quality (compared to the 7x0 series), i think ill continue to use my c760 for a long time, until the next generation of linux pda\'s come out, anways... faster processor, integrated wifi/bluetooth , usb host and all that standard... plus more ram and a faster bus... which the 6000 doesnt seem to do much about, except for the 6000D which has an extra 64 megs of flash, putting it on par with the c760, but no wifi/bluetooth...

also, i didnt read the specs, but whats the outlook on this thing\'s wifi range? one can only hope for an external antennae mount, but who knows...

the sl-6000 is pretty sexy, but i thing im gonna be stickin with my 760 for awhile, given teh reasons above, until something that REALLY justifies me dropping another 700 dollars comes along

just my editorial opinion on the matter, though
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2004, 02:15:01 am »
Man, you clamshell people are crazy.  I love the vertical form factor of the 5x00/6000.  But hey, that\'s why they make chocolate and vanilla

Foolishly, I was a 5600 early adopter, but I\'ll still probably grab either the 6000L or 6000D + a CF WiFi card.  I guess I wish Sharp would push the line a little harder -- I\'ve never even seen an advertisement for a Zaurus.  I only know about it because it\'s one of the few Linux handhelds, and you can\'t build a solid user base on that sort of esoterica...