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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2004, 05:19:56 am »
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How many hours extra would the 4 NIMH batteries give a person?


Depends on the rating of the batteries, and your usage patterns.  But the best way to approach this question is to compare the batteries you buy to the capacity of your internal battery.  For example, if you use 2000 maH AA batteries and your internal battery is 1500 maH, then you should get more than double the runtime.  If you use C or D batteries, you can obviously get a lot more.  

When doing this calculation, realize that 4 2000maH batteries at 1.2V in a battery pack is still 2000maH at 4.8V (not 8000maH).  If you wanted even more run time, you could hook 2 battery packs up in parallel to increase the capacity, for example you could use 8 AA batteries and get 4000maH.

If you\'re really hardcore, order 8 D batteries with an 11000 maH rating, built a \"battery cube\", and get almost 10X runtime.  

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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2004, 08:42:59 pm »
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Can you confirm that it works only with rechargable batteries?


That has been my experience, yes. I had a couple of sets of rechargeable AA\'s, so it wasn\'t an issue. It would be nicer if it ran on standard batteries, but it\'s still a pretty handy device.
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« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2004, 09:21:43 am »
You would not get double the run-time if the external batteries were the same rating as the internal batteries!

You have to remember two things. First is plain \'loss\'. You not only go through various connections (each connection has a resistance loss), but you have to go through the charging/power circuit of the Z itself. This eats some battery power.

Second, if you have batteries iin the Z, and who wouldn\'t?, the power from the external batteries would be used to charge them. Charging batteries is always at a power loss. It takes more power to charge than the power return.

I haven\'t done battery electronics in years, so I can\'t come up with any numbers, but there\'s no way that an equal external battery supply can double the run-time of the internal batteries.

Luckily, you can buy batteries with considerable more power than the internals and may be able to approach doubling the life. Maybe there\'s a battery expert out there who could figure it out? Too much trouble for me ;-)

But the Semson\'s units are nice and well worth the money. Even though I built my own for a couple of dollars, I just received the simple $6 Semson\'s unit. I liked the idea of an on/off switch and it turned out to be a bit smaller than the one I made.

I also bought their \"Pocket Power Bank\" with the buolt-in AC charger. This comes with a set of 1600mah  Ni-mh batteries and is quite a bit bigger than the simple battery pack. But it has the advantage of being able to plug directly into any AC socket to recharge. That seemed like quite a convenience to me. I didn\'t realize though that it used an external usb connector wire to plug itno the Z. That\'s not bad, but it\'s an extra piece to get lost....
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« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2004, 09:31:53 am »
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How many hours extra would the 4 NIMH batteries give a person?

How easy is it to find a 3rd party power adapter that I could use at my place of work instead of a home made battery pack to power my Z5500 at my desk?


I use the serialio Zthincable :
http://serialio.com/products/adaptors/ZThi...hinCableUSB.htm

It charges my Z and let\'s me sync/vnc/ssh at the same time while at work or on the road.

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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2004, 03:58:54 pm »
I tried adding an in4001 diode to my battery extender.  When the zaurus is off, the charging light is continously on.  When the zaurus is on, the charging light flickers.   I looked at the back of the diode package and it said, voltage drop of 1.6V.  I am thinking therefore that the resulting voltage with non rechargeable batteries is 6 V - 1.6 = 4.4 which is not enough to power the Z.  I dont have a tester yet so I cant verify the voltage output.   I think I put it in correctly because otherwise it shouldn\'t work.   Did I just pick up the wrong diode?  Or are there different flavors of in4001 with different voltage drops?  Can anybody using a diode in a battery extender care to comment?  Thanks.
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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2004, 05:18:40 pm »
I bought this semsons extender which has already been mentioned here before
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and tried it with my SL-C760. I didn't read all the postings and didn't worry when I used it with 4 1.5V nonrechargable AA-Batteries. First, the Z's Battery-Led started to blink and I couldn't turn the Z on but since then it works immediately in about 3 of 4 times and charges the Z. Moreover it seems possible to avoid the blinking battery-led when I turn on the Z before I turn on the extender.
Could it be that the Z is protected against too high voltages and indicates this by blinking? Do you think that it's dangerous what I'm doing or has Semson already integrated an LED into this extender to keep voltage at about 5V?
I don't have a tool to measure this. Has someone else tried this with 1.5V AAs?

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« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2004, 04:10:50 am »
Tried one of these some time back. It does have voltage protection, but with a fresh set of AAs the reading on a voltmenter was still over 6 volts.

It was over 7 volts on a unit with no protection.

So personally, I would still stick with Rechargables...
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