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totsubo

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« on: February 12, 2005, 11:30:29 pm »
I have managed to get my SL-C3000 'converted' to english but I did not realize that a side-effect would be to lose the japanese input (IME).

Is there any way to keep my C3000 in english but be able to input japanese?

I especially need japanese input when using a japanese -> english dictionary.

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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2005, 02:11:36 am »
Hi totsubo,
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Is there any way to keep my C3000 in english but be able to input japanese?
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Executable files of any input methods are placed into /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods in QTopia.

Could you show me the output of commands below in terminal?

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$ ls /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods
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$ ls /hdd1/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/plugins/inputmethods
« Last Edit: February 13, 2005, 02:24:39 am by m-morino »
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2005, 05:46:00 am »
Thanks for the quick reply! Here's the info you requested. Hope this helps!

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$ ls /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods
bash-2.05$ ls /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods/
inputmethods.tar        libqkeyboard.so libCRIM.cf
libqkeyboard.so.1   libqhandwriting.so        
libqkeyboard.so.1.0   libqhandwriting.so.1
libqkeyboard.so.1.0.0    libqhandwriting.so.1.0    
libqunikeyboard.so    libqhandwriting.so.1.0.0
libqunikeyboard.so.1    libqjpn50pad.cf          
libqunikeyboard.so.1.0    libqkeyboard.cf
libqunikeyboard.so.1.0.0    

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$ ls /hdd1/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/plugins/inputmethods
bash-2.05$ ls /hdd1/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/plugins/inputmethods/
libCRIM.cf              libqjpnnumpad.so
libCRIM.so              libqjpnnumpad.so.1
libCRIM.so.1            libqjpnnumpad.so.1.0
libCRIM.so.1.0          libqjpnnumpad.so.1.0.0
libCRIM.so.1.0.0        libqjpnsympad.so
libqjpn50pad.cf         libqjpnsympad.so.1
libqjpn50pad.so         libqjpnsympad.so.1.0
libqjpn50pad.so.1       libqjpnsympad.so.1.0.0
libqjpn50pad.so.1.0     libqkeyboard.cf
libqjpn50pad.so.1.0.0   libqkeyboard.so
libqjpnktnpad.so        libqkeyboard.so.1
libqjpnktnpad.so.1      libqkeyboard.so.1.0
libqjpnktnpad.so.1.0    libqkeyboard.so.1.0.0
libqjpnktnpad.so.1.0.0

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2005, 07:38:53 am »
totsubo,

OK, you can use Japanese input methods by making symbolic links .

First of all, you have to make choice of an input method you want to use.

libCRIM.so.1.0.0 is a hand-writing input method for Japanese letters.
Using this method, you can also input Kanji directly.

libqjpn50pad.so.1.0.0 is a input method for Japanese "alphabet" (hiragana, katakana).

Maybe other input methods (libqjpnktnpad.so.1.0.0, libqjpnnumpad.so.1.0.0, libqjpnsympad.so.1.0.0) are useless for an English speaker. Even we Japanese don't use these input methods

Have you finished making a choice? OK, now make symbolic links.
For example, assume you select "libCRIM.so.1.0.0",

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$ su
# ln -s /hdd1/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/plugins/inputmethods/libCRIM.so* /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods

Then reboot your Z.
The input method will appear on your taskbar...  

HTH,
« Last Edit: February 13, 2005, 08:17:01 am by m-morino »
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2005, 08:29:27 am »
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First of all, you have to make choice of an input method you want to use.

Can I only pick one? When my Z was in japanese I think I remember having a 'regular' input method that let me pick between hiragana/katakana/direct Input (full-width/half-width) and also a hand-writting one.

Can I have both? And if I use the japanese handwriting IME will it regonize letters if I write in english?

Will try your advice with one IME just for now and wait to read your reply.

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2005, 08:33:43 am »
m-morino, one more question:

How do I back-up the current config so I can revert back to english input if I decide to change my mind?

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2005, 08:45:25 am »
totsubo,

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Can I only pick one? When my Z was in japanese I think I remember having a 'regular' input method that let me pick between hiragana/katakana/direct Input (full-width/half-width) and also a hand-writting one.

Can I have both? And if I use the japanese handwriting IME will it regonize letters if I write in english?
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Ah, "choice" was an improper word... Yes, you can have both methods by making symbolic links.
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How do I back-up the current config so I can revert back to english input if I decide to change my mind?
Simply delete the symbolic links in /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods/  

HTH,
« Last Edit: February 13, 2005, 08:47:20 am by m-morino »
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2005, 09:06:37 am »
I tried to add the hiragana/katakana input method using the step you explained but it didn't work. I did this:

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#ln -s /hdd1/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/plugins/inputmethods/libqjpn50pad.so.1.0.0 /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods
And rebooted, only to notice I had forgotten the * in the filename. So I did it again correctly and rebooted once more. Now I have an inputmethod called libqjpn50pad but it's not what I expected. It brings up a japanese beyboard.  However the keys for switching from hiragana to kanji/katakana or zen-kaku/han-kaku are disabled ...

I was hoping for and input method that let me type a japanese word (using the keyboard) and have it write out the hiragan as it goes and then have it convert it to kanji when I hit the space bar.

Should I have picked a different input method?

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2005, 09:32:38 am »
totsubo,
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And rebooted, only to notice I had forgotten the * in the filename. So I did it again correctly and rebooted once more. Now I have an inputmethod called libqjpn50pad but it's not what I expected. It brings up a japanese beyboard.  However the keys for switching from hiragana to kanji/katakana or zen-kaku/han-kaku are disabled ...
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Hmmm... OK, remove the symlinks of the useless keyboard for the meantime.
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$ su
# rm /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods/libqjpn50pad.so*
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I was hoping for and input method that let me type a japanese word (using the keyboard) and have it write out the hiragan as it goes and then have it convert it to kanji when I hit the space bar.
This might satisfy you.
 
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$ su
# ln -s /hdd1/usr/QtPalmtop.rom/plugins/applets/libfepmonapplet.so* /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/applets
Then reboot. You'll be able to switch input letters by pressing "全/半" key.

HTH,
« Last Edit: February 13, 2005, 09:40:11 am by m-morino »
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2005, 10:27:46 am »
m-morino,

Thanks for the helpful advice. I now seem to have an IME on the task bar, however I can't make it change to anything but 'Direct Input'. Pressing the "全/半" key doesn't do anything nor does trying to select any of the other options the IME has for input.

When I do try and select an other input type (like "ZenHira" I can hear a kind of error beep/click.

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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2005, 10:40:45 am »
Got it! I had previously installed mcconvert when I first tried to switch my Zaurus to english. I just uninstalled that package and now the appliet works!

I wonder what the conflict was...

Thank you for all your help!