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RichS

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« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2004, 09:52:07 am »
Ahh, thanks. I copied my slrn.rc to /home/zaurus/.slrnrc and slrn starts up just fine now. I don\'t even have to set the nntpserver anymore. This is nice!

Yes, I configured the display with:

set wrap_flags 7
header_display_format 0 \"%F%-5l:%t%s\"

This causes the wrap-lines to always be on and the headers to display only the unread/read, size and subject. And I can see about 20 characters of subject which is enough to let me know if it\'s junk or worth reading, most of the time...

I tried the --expire command. Nothing as you noticed. I may try to go in a delete files manually. Downloading 500 was overly optimistic and used far too much space. I have since reset the default to 100 messages and a 7 day expire. I was hoping it would delete read messages...

The \'create\' option seems to be needed if you add a newsgroup also. I misspelled a group and of course got no messages. After fixing the spelling and rerunning slrnpull, I got the messages but slrn wouldn\'t display the group unless I hit \'l\'. So I tried \'create\' again and everything showed up.

So now that I\'ve got it congigured and know where to put .slrnrc, all looks and works good. I don\'t know about posting though? I hate sending \'test\' posts... And from the looks of thing, the groups have degraded considerably since I kept up on them... Now if we could only filter out the junk...

Thanks, as usual :-)

Rich...

Oh, maybe a P.S.

If this new package needs a .srlnrc file in the home directory, maybe it should put one there instead of the slrn.rc it puts in the etc directory? Would make things easier for future users...
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« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2004, 05:28:45 pm »
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I tried the --expire command. Nothing as you noticed. I may try to go in a delete files manually.

No, I wouldn\'t do this  :?  slrn refuses to start with some error about being unable to retrieve an article.

The only way round this is to run slrnpull with --recreate.
This then means you lose the info of which articles you have already read.

Instead, wait 24 hours from when you downloaded the news, set expire to 1 day and run it.  You will then only have current news and can set your expire back to something more realistic.

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500 was overly optimistic and used far too much space.

You thought you were overly optimistic, I had it set to 20,000.  took over 100mb for 4 newsgroups.  I downloaded these last saturday so set expire to 4 days, and after a 45min wait my local news source is a bit more realistic with only the last 4 days of news  

Most of the articles in the F1 group were going on about how good/bad last nights race was, but that was months ago!  I guess my news server keeps lots of articles, which is good I suppose, but not good if you do this on a zaurus.

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I don\'t know about posting though?

It probably won\'t work as neither of us compiled sendmail (too many error\'s)  

The only way round this that I can think of involves running slrnpull on a full blown linux box to do the retrieving/sending, and using rsync to keep the two in step.

I Don\'t generally have time to post to groups as I am too busy reading them, but if you want to try a post, use something like alt.test, that\'s what it is there for.

If it works, let me know.

Peter.
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« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2004, 11:55:19 pm »
Why did I miss the --recreate? BUt I did go one step further. I set the expire time to one day, then set the Z date one day ahead and ran slrnpull. It spent quite a bit of time deleting all the expired messages ;-) Then I reset everything back to normal, now with a 100 message and 3 day expire and reran it and wound up with about 50 messages total. Saved about 50 megs and I\'m happy. I give the Z a lot of credit though as I was deleting zroadmap maps all the while it was downloading those original 50 megs worth of stuff to make the room. Since it was my first run, I didn\'t want to take a chance on it running out of space. Nice to be able to run more than one program.

20,000? Now there\'s a few hours reading ;-)

I didn\'t even think of sendmail, or the lack of it. But the Z can send mail. I wonder how they do it without sendmail? Now this will have to take some looking into, when I get the time... If I could buy time like I can buy storage, I\'d be a happy person. Nowadays about the only thing I have time for is snow plowing... But now that slrn & slrnpull is working, it would make sense to look into the posting side. Maybe I\'lll finally have to get into the programming side of things... Problem there is that\'s what I do all day long on a win machine. Not something I look forward to for relaxation... But if it grabs my interest!

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« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2004, 05:08:38 pm »
It posts! I don\'t know how, or care for that matter, but I tried a post to alt.test and it worked just fine...

That\'s after I searched and found the postfix-tls_2.0.15_arm.ipk at killefiz.de and looked through that. 5 megs to install it! I don\'t think it\'s for me...
Then I had a heck of a time with whatever editor slenr was defaulting to. And it didn\'t seem to want to work with textedit... So I went back to killefiz.de and grabbed pico. Now the editor works like a charm and so does the posting. It\'s just a shame that some idiot decided to post 500 multi-meg binaries to alt.test... Had to cacel the retrieve several times before I checked with agent on my deskto... Gotta love newsgroups....
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« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2004, 06:20:43 pm »
cool!

I wonder why it was so adament that you have sendmail installed then?

As long as it works, that\'s the main thing.

Now all we need to figure out is how to get it to expire stuff that you have read and marked deleted.

Peter.
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« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2004, 01:40:34 pm »
I think sendmail is needed so you can reply by email to a post. If you are replying or posting in a group, slrnpull will post it ok. It would be nice if you could just disable the reply by email feature and not need sendmail when you are compiling it.

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« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2004, 02:59:11 pm »
sendmail is easy, it\'s all the support files & libraries that sem to make it too large...

Maybe a way to clean up read meassages wouldn\'t be that hard? Add a command function for --compress. You could delete all messages marked as read or deleted, then call the  --rebuild function to reconstruct the overview files. At least half of it is already there... Going through all the messages and deleting the marked ones shouldn\'t be too difficult, but may take quite a while to perform...

And all this said from someone who hasn\'t programmed seriously in C for at least 20 years ;-)
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