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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2005, 11:40:12 pm »
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Which one?
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There are plenty for x86, if you're serious about integrating a more decent audio library into kino, I can research it and let you know.

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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2005, 02:44:52 am »
First impressions:

I don't like the blue text on blue background on the main library screen. Is black/white too uncool?

Because it's designed for landscape mode, some of the dialog boxes overrun the screen area on the SL-6000.

ev1l is right about the English messages. Sharp have allocated zero budget for translation.

NO AAC (MP4, M4A) SUPPORT. Screw Windows Media. This is one area where Apple's format has a hefty presence on account of the iPod, and yet the support in third party devices is rubbish. (And I'm not talking here about locked DRM .M4P files. That I can understand.) Meantime Kino will play these files but doesn't read tags.

On the other hand...

It did a great job of finding my library. I also like how the user can specify which files to use instead of showing an aggregated global search. Man, that's annoying. It's also possible to limit the library to certain keywords, which is also like searching in a way.

The key (i.e., non-screen) access is nice. Not as customizable as Kino, but it does the trick.

I also like the way it reads embedded IDv3 tags and allows users to select a "reference image," which I'll use for cover art. Though this feature seems to be crashing the app now that I'm playing with it.

All in all it does a better job than Kino/Mplayer at reading and organizing MP3s but I'm not sure if that's enough to make it my primary player. What I'd like to see is a single player that combines the strengths of the the existing ones while adding full OGG and AAC support.
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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2005, 04:50:22 pm »
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There are plenty for x86, if you're serious about integrating a more decent audio library into kino, I can research it and let you know.
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would really appreciate it. I did spend a few minutes but could only come up with mpg123, ogg123


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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2005, 07:37:38 pm »
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would really appreciate it. I did spend a few minutes but could only come up with mpg123, ogg123
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Will those not compile on ARM?
edit: MAD should be fine.

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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2005, 12:12:50 am »
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NO AAC (MP4, M4A) SUPPORT. Screw Windows Media. This is one area where Apple's format has a hefty presence on account of the iPod, and yet the support in third party devices is rubbish. (And I'm not talking here about locked DRM .M4P files. That I can understand.) Meantime Kino will play these files but doesn't read tags.

Can you upload a couple of AAC files with tags somewhere, so that I can take a look if mlayer/kino can actualy rwad them?

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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2005, 07:40:54 am »
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NO AAC (MP4, M4A) SUPPORT. Screw Windows Media. This is one area where Apple's format has a hefty presence on account of the iPod, and yet the support in third party devices is rubbish. (And I'm not talking here about locked DRM .M4P files. That I can understand.) Meantime Kino will play these files but doesn't read tags.

Can you upload a couple of AAC files with tags somewhere, so that I can take a look if mlayer/kino can actualy rwad them?
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I've put a folder entitled "AAC for Kino" on my [a href=\"http://homepage.mac.com/ericjiannelli/FileSharing4.html]iDisk[/url]. In there you'll find two AAC (.m4a) files that I pulled straight from my Z, so I know that they're fully tagged but not read by Kino/Mplayer.

Preemptive apologies on two counts: they're encoded at 320kbps, so they're large files (9MB and 6MB); and they're Stan Tracey/Stan Kenton Big Band jazz tunes, which may not find a fan in you.

Thanks, maslovsky. And enjoy!
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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2005, 09:17:47 am »
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would really appreciate it. I did spend a few minutes but could only come up with mpg123, ogg123
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Will those not compile on ARM?
edit: MAD should be fine.
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they will but i (and maslovsky) would prefer one that plays ogg as well as mp3s and maybe a few other. mpg123 and ogg123 only play their respective files.

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« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2005, 12:14:01 pm »
Music support on the Zaurus is just sad...  in comparison with clies...
Can XMMS be an useful alternative for someone like me running Cacko 1.22?
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« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2005, 02:23:49 pm »
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In there you'll find two AAC (.m4a) files that I pulled straight from my Z, so I know that they're fully tagged but not read by Kino/Mplayer.

Preemptive apologies on two counts: they're encoded at 320kbps, so they're large files (9MB and 6MB); and they're Stan Tracey/Stan Kenton Big Band jazz tunes, which may not find a fan in you.

I took the liberty to download one of the files as well, since I was curious what VLC on my Zaurus would do with it. It plays back as well as can be expected (VLC on the Z does a ... uhm, shall we say suboptimal job with audio-only files at the moment), though there is no support for any tags.

One day I hope I'll manage to annoy the VLC developers into improving support for audio-only files, but that will probably take a while

On another note (even though you already apologized for it): AAC at 320kbps is, in one word, overkill. But I guess you already knew that  Heck, I usually encode music videos for playback on the Z with that rate as ceiling  (SCNR)

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« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2005, 03:45:18 pm »
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On another note (even though you already apologized for it): AAC at 320kbps is, in one word, overkill. But I guess you already knew that  Heck, I usually encode music videos for playback on the Z with that rate as ceiling  (SCNR)

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Isn't bigger better?  

The reason they're at 320 is because my entire music library is at 320 or Apple Lossless (the mysterious codec for which was recently "unlocked" by an enterprising developer and should be incorporated into mplayer posthaste... but that's another matter altogether) and I didn't feel like re-ripping them for my Z. The iPod has a feature that allows transferred files to be automatically re-ripped to a lower bitrate, but the Z ain't an iPod.

As for regular hi-fi use, it isn't overkill to have 320 or Lossless files. I've listened to all the various bitrates, and in a kind of self-blindfold experiment I found 320+ to be markedly better than lower encodings, especially when it comes to jazz and classical.
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« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2005, 06:57:55 pm »
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they will but i (and maslovsky) would prefer one that plays ogg as well as mp3s and maybe a few other. mpg123 and ogg123 only play their respective files.
integer only? I don't think it exists. There's tremor for integer-ogg. I'm more concerned about tag-decoding than actual music playback. That already works nicely in kino.

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« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2005, 07:46:31 pm »
Is there a way to get this program to read lyrics embeded in an MP3 (IDv3.2)? It'd be relly cool if it could. Especially if I plugged it into a TV.  

I'm using the original Sharp Rom.

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« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2005, 04:23:35 am »
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Are there any other command line players that I could compile for the zaurus with ogg + equalizer support.
Maslovsky maybe you could extend your kino2 to support one other command line player for music. Any suggestions there would be welcome.

You may want to have a look at the Linux Audio Multiple Interface Player. AFAIK there is no equalizer plugin yet, but someone who wants one bad enough is bound to write one eventually

Just stumbled across it yesterday on my quest to find a command line audio player that, as they say, "does it all" -- and, well, it does

Built it for my 5500 and tried a few things, and it is looking very good. Due to its plugin architecture it should even be possible to build a QT/E control plugin -- but then again, I detest GUI programming in general and QT with its C++-centric approach in particular , so I might be wrong.

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« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2005, 07:37:37 am »
Any ideas on how to read more of the id tags in an MP3 file?
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« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2005, 09:22:24 am »
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Are there any other command line players that I could compile for the zaurus with ogg + equalizer support.
Maslovsky maybe you could extend your kino2 to support one other command line player for music. Any suggestions there would be welcome.

You may want to have a look at the Linux Audio Multiple Interface Player. AFAIK there is no equalizer plugin yet, but someone who wants one bad enough is bound to write one eventually

Just stumbled across it yesterday on my quest to find a command line audio player that, as they say, "does it all" -- and, well, it does

Built it for my 5500 and tried a few things, and it is looking very good. Due to its plugin architecture it should even be possible to build a QT/E control plugin -- but then again, I detest GUI programming in general and QT with its C++-centric approach in particular , so I might be wrong.

Best regards,
Chris.
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This is a good player to port, it doesnt have an equaliser yet but looks promising. Do you have the build you made anywhere that i can download. Which plugins did you include with the build?

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