C1000 On Ebay |||| Isnt It A Fake

[seed]

look somone all ready selll a c1000 on ebay
this look very strange cause it said it has bleutooth build in ..... VERY STRANGE


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...bayphotohosting

[iamasmith]

look somone all ready selll a c1000 on ebay
this look very strange cause it said it has bleutooth build in ..... VERY STRANGE


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...bayphotohosting
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It also says Phone and Camera built in. Most of the photos are C3000 from some of the expos... personally I think this is a ringer.

[seed]

look somone all ready selll a c1000 on ebay
this look very strange cause it said it has bleutooth build in ..... VERY STRANGE


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...bayphotohosting
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=71187\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

It also says Phone and Camera built in. Most of the photos are C3000 from some of the expos... personally I think this is a ringer.
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yes but i seem that he have photo that are not comming for the expo
but i think it is a ringer cuz of the private auction may be he bid his own auction ?

[offroadgeek]

look somone all ready selll a c1000 on ebay
this look very strange cause it said it has bleutooth build in ..... VERY STRANGE


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...bayphotohosting
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=71187\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I don't know if we're looking at the same ebay item (I clicked the link you provided)... it clearly states it's a C3000, not a 1000.  Also, it looks like the seller is getting rid of qty 3 C3000's as one lot, not just one.

The seller is definitely doing false advertising with the crap about built in bluetooth, camera and phone!

I've submitted a fraud report to ebay...

[offroadgeek]

so after I submitted the fraud report, I emailed the seller and they responded with this:

You asked:
"I hope you relealize that you are falsely advertising the Zaurus 3000's. They DO NOT have built in bluetooth, camera or phone. I'm reporting this item to ebay."

Hello , Sir, i have this item and this have all accesories from specs. You have a nice day and thank for your time . Regards!!

After this I created a dummy ebay acount, so that I could bid on the item with a really high maximum bid ($6000  ).  Not 15 minutes later, I got an email from ebay (under the fake account's email):

The following is a notice from eBay Trust & Safety regarding:

Item Number - 5761016817

Item Title - Sharp Zaurus SL-C3000

Our records show that you were a bidder or buyer of one or more of this seller's items. We recently removed all of this seller's active listings and have suspended the seller's trading privileges. Due to privacy concerns we will not be able to share further details related to this seller.

If someone claiming to be the seller asks you to complete a transaction outside of eBay, we strongly recommend that you ignore the request. Transactions for items listed on eBay that are completed outside of the eBay marketplace are not covered by the Buyer Protection services offered by eBay and can be highly indicative of fraud.

If you have not sent payment to the seller, we urge you to not proceed with the transaction.

If you have already paid, you may wish to pursue recouping your funds. Some steps you might take include:

1. Ask the seller for a refund
2. If you paid by check, ask your bank to stop payment
3. If you paid by credit card, contact your credit card company's security department
4. If you have made a payment by money order or wire transfer, you may contact that company for further information at 1-800-325-6000 (Western Union), or at 1-800-926-9400 (Money Gram)
5. If you paid with PayPal, review the Buyer Complaint Process at:

 /csg/p?www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/protections-buyer-outside

I'm actually impressed with ebay's quick and appropriate reponse to this!

[nilch]

I'm actually impressed with ebay's quick and appropriate reponse to this!
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Not an Amazon after all...    
and no crap about following policies and letting the seller have a field day ...

[adf]

A nice improvement.... the marketplace notifying the buyer, rather than the buyer doing the research and notification

[bluedevils]

I'm not surprised.  Ebay does not have a money back guarantee so they have to actively keep the risks low for both purchaser and seller.  Amazon on the other hand, has a money back guarantee so the purchaser is protected.  It means amazon loses money with the guarantee and ebay loses money by putting more effort to thwart bad people.

[offroadgeek]

Boy, this seller is persistant!  I just got the following email (the original email has a few well placed ebay graphics to make it look legit):

ebay second chance (ebay_second_chance@yahoo.com) wrote:

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> Dear eBay Community Member,
> 
>  After verifying the trustworthiness of the seller and the availability
> of the merchandise for immediate shipping, we have approved your buy it
> now transaction and offered you, as the buyer, full purchase protection
> for the amount you agreed on with the seller.
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> immediately sent to the buyer;
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> Buyer receives the merchandise and has five days to inspect it.
>  If it is complete and as described, the buyer should accept the merchandise.
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> Details and instructions of this transaction:
>  The following item(s) are protected in this eBay transaction:
>  Sharp Zaurus SL-C3000 (Item# 5761016817)
> Seller's verified payment address:
> First Name :      Vladimir
> Last Name :      Mysik
> address:            2420 w moffat st
> city:                  Chicago
> State :               IL
> Zip/Code :        60647
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>
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> Date of verification:                          03/20/2005
> Transaction number:                        5761016817
> Amount insured:                              US $1,450
> Payment must be sent by: Western Union Money Transfer
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I'm going to report this to ebay.

[dreadlocks]

nice catch, good work offroadgeek