Author Topic: Possible New Zaurus Kernel For Oe (Read 18766 times)

adf · « **Reply #30 on:** April 13, 2005, 12:34:01 pm »

Now that 3.5.3 is here (I am mirroring it as I write) and it seems pretty conclusive that kernel 2.6 is "THE WAY" can anyone give an idea when (or even if ) 2.6 will be available on the 6000?

dirk · « **Reply #31 on:** April 13, 2005, 03:57:48 pm »

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can anyone give an idea when (or even if ) 2.6 will be available on the 6000?

2.6 for the sl-6000 is in a early stage. Only a few drivers are ready:

- Keyboard
- Nand
- Display
- Backlight
- PCMCIA
- IRDA
- SD/MMC
- USB client

Things which needs to be ported:

- AC97 (Sound / Touchscreen)
- USB -Host (WLAN)
- Charging stuff
- Bluetooth
- Expansion jacket
- Some issues with suspend / resume

So this kernel isn't really usable at this time. All these patches are available in openembedded.

Cheers,
Dirk

adf · « **Reply #32 on:** April 13, 2005, 04:45:06 pm »

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can anyone give an idea when (or even if ) 2.6 will be available on the 6000?
2.6 for the sl-6000 is in a early stage. Only a few drivers are ready:

- Keyboard
- Nand
- Display
- Backlight
- PCMCIA
- IRDA
- SD/MMC
- USB client

Things which needs to be ported:

- AC97 (Sound / Touchscreen)
- USB -Host (WLAN)
- Charging stuff
- Bluetooth
- Expansion jacket
- Some issues with suspend / resume

So this kernel isn't really usable at this time. All these patches are available in openembedded.

Cheers,
Dirk
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Nice to hear that it is being done, though. Thanks.

GenericAnimeBoy · « **Reply #33 on:** April 20, 2005, 09:08:34 pm »

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There are no contacts to Sharp Japan. In the past, they didn't release the code because of the SD Consortium license not allowing that. Since then, those legal issues have been sorted out (ironically, mostly thanks to Microsoft).

So - the only hindering issue for releaseing the SD and CameraCard source code is...

*** drumroll ***

they don't need to.

Sharp never released a single bit more data than they needed to. I don't expect this to change.
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Observation: Has somebody asked Sharp for it yet?

Mickeyl · « **Reply #34 on:** April 21, 2005, 06:01:37 am »

More than once. Feel free to contact them again and pester them - the more people request that, the better.

albertr · « **Reply #35 on:** April 21, 2005, 07:25:33 am »

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It means that the 2.4 kernel for collie will stagnate, since no one is doing any work on that. It also means that 2.6 for collie will sooner or later be available and then you can choose whether to stick with 2.4 and SD or with 2.6 without SD.
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There was a guy (or gal) who posted on this forum awhile back that (s)he disassembled and then reverse-engineered sharp's sd_mmc driver for Collie. (S)he also claimed that (s)he rewrote most of the code in C and change a few things along the way to make in faster. I don't know the name of the person, but you can try to find his/her old posts on this board. Here's a link to compiled driver developed by this person:
[a href=\"http://www.zaurususergroup.org/UpDownload+index-req-getit-lid-174.phtml]driver[/url] .
-albertr

azurensis · « **Reply #36 on:** April 25, 2005, 01:04:54 pm »

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It means that the 2.4 kernel for collie will stagnate, since no one is doing any work on that. It also means that 2.6 for collie will sooner or later be available and then you can choose whether to stick with 2.4 and SD or with 2.6 without SD.
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There was a guy (or gal) who posted on this forum awhile back that (s)he disassembled and then reverse-engineered sharp's sd_mmc driver for Collie. (S)he also claimed that (s)he rewrote most of the code in C and change a few things along the way to make in faster. I don't know the name of the person, but you can try to find his/her old posts on this board. Here's a link to compiled driver developed by this person:
[a href=\"http://www.zaurususergroup.org/UpDownload+index-req-getit-lid-174.phtml]driver[/url] .
-albertr
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FYI, this is being worked on [a href=\"http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/506917]right now[/url]

"3. SD Support

Ian Molton seems to have added SD support to handhelds.org's kernel. I'm
still trying to contact him to discuss this but the following patch enables
SD cards to work for me:
http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/2.6.11-rc1/mmc_sd-r1.patch

Was there a reason why SD support wasn't included in the original driver?
Would something like this patch be accepted into the kernel (I realise it
has some rough edges). I'd probably remove the attempt at 4 bit support
until a mainstream driver supported that..."

Mickeyl · « **Reply #37 on:** April 25, 2005, 01:38:34 pm »

Guys, _please_ don't mix Collie and the rest of the world.

Once again... SD/MMC for all models except Collie is no problem and already there. For Collie, it will probably never be there since it uses proprietary custom chip interface for which no driver nor specs exist.

Jinidog · « **Reply #38 on:** April 27, 2005, 03:55:46 pm »

What about poodle?
Is there a working 2.6 kernel for poodle or is there a good chance that there will be one?

Greg2 · « **Reply #39 on:** April 27, 2005, 05:06:20 pm »

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What about poodle?
Is there a working 2.6 kernel for poodle or is there a good chance that there will be one?

Here's a bad picture (no frontlight yet) of an April 6th 2005 build booted up on my poodle and a link to where it's at in development:
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~lenz/zaurus/

Greg

Jinidog · « **Reply #40 on:** April 27, 2005, 05:10:05 pm »

Okay,

seems as if I'll have to wait for some time, until that is useable.
(or I learn kernel-hacking, it's a good reason to start )

BeKind · « **Reply #41 on:** April 28, 2005, 03:41:42 pm »

Well, i've got a 5500 and I want to use an SD for storage. (I use the other slot for Wifi.)

So it seems I pretty much have to pick a version and freeze there before the new versions make the SD unusable.

3.5.2 was pretty good, my main complaint was advancedfm was buggy. I like the new version,

*is it possible to use the newer advancedfm with 3.5.2?

The two main things I don't like about 3.5.3 are that holding down the right arrow suspends, and that the programs using sharp-compat have messed up dialog boxes now.

*Will it take a new release of OZ to fix those 2 problems? Will I have to give up SD to see those fixed?

Thanks in advance for answering these questions.

Mickeyl · « **Reply #42 on:** April 28, 2005, 03:52:05 pm »

I'm afraid I have to report that the OZ team is overloaded and there are no people looking into the two issues, so it probably won't get fixed until someone else starts to debug that.

berte74 · « **Reply #43 on:** September 07, 2005, 12:07:00 pm »

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then would this mean the continuation of the 2.4 kernel (and separate crosscompiler) for the 5500 while the other models move to a 2.6 based better integrated OE build system?
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I have some poodles running Opie 1.1.7 & kernel 2.4.18
Does anyone know where I can get the install/flash files for these older versions??? I need to have them to revert to incase our stuff has issues with the new kernel.

Thanks in advance.

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