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« on: April 11, 2005, 03:46:44 pm »
Does anyone have 3.5.3 working on a 5600 yet?

Any issues to be concerned with at this point?

thx,

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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2005, 04:56:22 pm »
1.) OpenZaurus 3.5.3 is not out yet.

2.) There is a severe lack of people interested in poodle.

When I release 3.5.3, there will also be images for poodle but they have received 0 (in words: zero) testing. Can't do anything about that until interested people join us.
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2005, 08:43:43 pm »
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1.) OpenZaurus 3.5.3 is not out yet.

2.) There is a severe lack of people interested in poodle.

When I release 3.5.3, there will also be images for poodle but they have received 0 (in words: zero) testing. Can't do anything about that until interested people join us.
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Its probably a bit late for this release, but I'd definately be willing to do some testing for Poodle releases.

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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2005, 10:11:50 pm »
I'll do what I can for testing too

Where can I go to d/l it?
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2005, 05:30:44 am »
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1.) OpenZaurus 3.5.3 is not out yet.

2.) There is a severe lack of people interested in poodle.

When I release 3.5.3, there will also be images for poodle but they have received 0 (in words: zero) testing. Can't do anything about that until interested people join us.
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I can join too - at least testing on my Poodle.

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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2005, 07:25:33 am »
I'd be willing to test also, just point me to the goods!

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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2005, 07:30:44 am »
3.5.3 will be out imminently, if you're all happy to look at/test it and help iron out any bugs that would be great.

I'm sure you'll see the announcement in the forum, and I'll also post a link here.

Cheers for your support,


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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2005, 07:09:15 am »
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3.5.3 will be out imminently, if you're all happy to look at/test it and help iron out any bugs that would be great.

Ok, great! Even this week? Just cannot wait any more ;-)

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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2005, 11:02:26 am »
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3.5.3 will be out imminently, if you're all happy to look at/test it and help iron out any bugs that would be great.
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Well then, the wait [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11924&hl=]is over already[/url]. kewl. I'm flashing as soon as I can.
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2005, 01:22:56 am »
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Well then, the wait is over already. kewl. I'm flashing as soon as I can.
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Well, already flashed.
Bugs that I found on 3.5.2 and are still present.
-Installing with destination other that root fails to link. Seems that installer fails to make directories and then it can not link. (Dest on SD or /home is the same)
-After installing I make an Upgrade from the Package Manager just to know what directories i must create. At this stage sometimes gpe dies and screen blocks.
I enter by ssh and a /etc/init.d/opie restart brings it to life again.
Strange enough, with 3.5.3 starting opie by ssh says this. That message was different in 3.5.2
It didn´t say from the :---: and downward.

root@dino:~# /etc/init.d/opie start
Starting Opie in 5 seconds... press key to interrupt.
You seem to already have a /home/root/Applications directory.
Assuming it is the Opie Applications directory. Exiting.
Starting Opie....
ODevice() - found 'Hardware     : SHARP Poodle'
:----:
Zaurus::init() - Using the Embedix HAL on a Zaurus SL-B500 or SL-5600
Zaurus::rotation()
OGlobal::creating global configuration instance.
OConfig::OConfig()
<unknown>: ODevice reports transformation to be 3
Zaurus::rotation()
<unknown>: setting QWS_DISPLAY to 'Transformed:Rot270:0'
qt_init() - starting in daemon mode...
root@dino:~#

-I still had to install locales by hand. I noticed they are separated by continent now.
-Of course my socket low power Spectrum chipset CF wireless card doesn´t work :-(
-After some work with any package they start o get killed by SIGSEGV or SIGPIPE. Sounds to me like a memory problem. But adding swap doesn´t help. On the other hand, doing the same (like installing the same packages) but with ipkg in console by ssh always works. This goes away for a while rebooting

I´ll post more bugs as I find/remember them.

Thanks.
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2005, 05:20:28 am »
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At this stage sometimes gpe dies

You mean Opie I presume.

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-Installing with destination other that root fails to link. Seems that installer fails to make directories and then it can not link. (Dest on SD or /home is the same)

More info, this should be easy enough to fix.

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-Of course my socket low power Spectrum chipset CF wireless card doesn´t work :-(

Hmm, how much work has been done to try to get this working? Does it work for anyone else?

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-After some work with any package they start o get killed by SIGSEGV or SIGPIPE. Sounds to me like a memory problem. But adding swap doesn´t help. On the other hand, doing the same (like installing the same packages) but with ipkg in console by ssh always works. This goes away for a while rebooting

I'm confused - are you saying that if you install a package using ipkg it doesn't die?

Or is the above two points - firstly that things start dying, and secondly, hmm, I can't quite work it out...

What are the apps which are dying? How much free mem is available when they die? What else are you running, etc.


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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2005, 06:28:23 pm »
Not sure if there should be a separate thread started for this, but I have a couple bugs to add:

- Sound is playing way fast (or something). Things like card insertion notices sound like a scratchy cricket chirp. Appointment alarms sound like short chirps of digital distortion (think split seconds of 'cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/dsp').

- Resume after suspend is hit-or-miss. If I manually suspend it (hold the Cancel key down), then try to resume, it doesn't respond. I noticed once that, after waiting nearly 10 minutes, it seemed to resume after another try, but the screen immediately went back to grey. I was able to make the Z come back on successfully by trying again immediately. If an alarm wakes it up, the alarm screech (see above) can be heard, but I can't make it stop by hitting Cancel, OK or the center pad button. I end up having to reset it from inside the battery compartment.

- The backlight is also hit-or-miss upon reboot or resume. Sometimes it comes on, sometimes it doesn't.

- The clock doesn't hold time between reboots. I don't know how SharpROM does it. Perhaps they write the current time to flash before rebooting, and then estimate the reboot time after it comes back up, at least coming up with a good estimate time. It'd be nice if that were added in so that reboots weren't as painful.

- I can't get either opie-mediaplayer1 or opie-mediaplayer2 to install. They fail on dependencies of either missing default skin (v1) or libxine (v2). The packages don't exist in the feeds.

- GUI package manager still crashes and causes full Zaurus freezes.

Though not a bug, I did notice that I had to download some of the OZ images 2-3 times before I got the MD5sums to check out. Why are these downloads getting corrupted?

On a positive note, I finally figured out how to actually get OZ to sync with Outlook via Intellisync. Now I can finally give OZ a fair shake. Kudos to the devs on this release. I'd been checking back on openzaurus.org for weeks now for a new release, and though I still have yet to see these showstoppers resolved from 3.5.2, I'm quite impressed with the speed and look of 3.5.3.

I just wish I could figure out how to get the development environment up and running on my FC3 system so I could at least try to help out. Unfortunately I can't even seem to get a working image to compile.
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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2005, 12:47:45 am »
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At this stage sometimes gpe dies

You mean Opie I presume.

No, I mean
812 root       8924 S   /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/qpe -terminal 2
Now I notice that the process is called QPE. He dies.

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-Installing with destination other that root fails to link. Seems that installer fails to make directories and then it can not link. (Dest on SD or /home is the same)
More info, this should be easy enough to fix.

If you install Gaim for example that has many subdirectories on /usr/share/
ipkg fails silently to make them and on the GUI the Gaim Icon is missing.
Then I run Package Manager a do an Update just to see the directories that could not be created.
Then I mkdir them.
Then I run Update again, just to make the symlinks for each file in the newly created directories.
For example, have a look at this part of the log that Package manager gives me when Updating:
8<--8<---8<--8<---
Press the start button to begin.

loading conf file /etc/ipkg.conf
Nothing to be done
Linking packages installed in: <dest-name>
Linking packages installed in: home
Error linkling 'strfile.1.gz' to '//usr/share/man/man1/unstr.1.gz'
Error linkling '/home/opt/QtPalmtop/pics/kdepim/kaddressbook/icons22/reload.png' to '//opt/QtPalmtop/pics/kdepim/kaddressbook/icons22/reload.png'
Error linkling '/home/opt/QtPalmtop/pics/kdepim/kaddressbook/icons22/editpaste.png' to '//opt/QtPalmtop/pics/kdepim/kaddressbook/icons22/editpaste.png'
8<--8<---8<--8<---

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-Of course my socket low power Spectrum chipset CF wireless card doesn´t work :-(
Hmm, how much work has been done to try to get this working? Does it work for anyone else?
How Much? I´ve surfed the whole internet from une side to the other.
I´ve found that this card needs the firmware downloaded after a reset.
The module included in OZ3.5.3 seems to fail at the memory address where it get the Hermes messages or something like that. Very weird messages. Any other module not from OZ fails to load
with unresolved symbol. It seems that Rmk made something from rmk6 to 7.
One of the spectrum_cs original developers told me that code had been included in
Orinico_cs, but I could not find it neither on the binary module nor in the sources.
No firmware downloader. (but I have could miss it, I´m not a developer)
My last hope seems to be hostap loading the firmware i got from Prosky.
http://www.red-bean.com/~proski/firmware/
I´ll try tomorrow.  


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-After some work with any package they start o get killed by SIGSEGV or SIGPIPE. Sounds to me like a memory problem. But adding swap doesn´t help. On the other hand, doing the same (like installing the same packages) but with ipkg in console by ssh always works. This goes away for a while rebooting

I'm confused - are you saying that if you install a package using ipkg it doesn't die?
Or is the above two points - firstly that things start dying, and secondly, hmm, I can't quite work it out...
What are the apps which are dying? How much free mem is available when they die? What else are you running, etc.
Yes, ipkg _never_ dies.
Sometimes, specially after 2 or more packages being installed using Package Manager, it dies, sometimes SIGSEGV sometimes SIGPIPE, sometimes it takes QPE with it, but ssh stays working.
Regardin the memory use, just to boot:

                total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:        30000        24076         5924            0          152
Opening Package Manager shows:
Mem:        30000        27560         2440            0          152
Anda actually installing something (wget):
Mem:        30000        29420          580            0          120
Mem:        30000        29248          752            0            0
Mem:        30000        28940         1060            0            0
Installing Vorbis Tools:
Mem:        30000        29344          656            0            0
  815 root      14384 S   packagemanager
Mem:        30000        29292          708            0            0
  815 root      14552 S   packagemanager

Strange enough but it didn´t die..
Normally it would have died. ;-)

Hope this helps.
I´m attaching the ipkg output log just in case.

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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2005, 01:03:10 am »
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- Resume after suspend is hit-or-miss. If I manually suspend it (hold the Cancel key down), then try to resume, it doesn't respond. I noticed once that, after waiting nearly 10 minutes, it seemed to resume after another try, but the screen immediately went back to grey. I was able to make the Z come back on successfully by trying again immediately. If an alarm wakes it up, the alarm screech (see above) can be heard, but I can't make it stop by hitting Cancel, OK or the center pad button. I end up having to reset it from inside the battery compartment.
Well, I have a theory for this.
Did you see that when pressing On/Off the syslog echoes messages from the apm events?
Seems to me that those messages stays somewhere and then at the wake up moment they
make the Z sleep again. Until the buffer empties.
Maybe I´m getting worse. I run out of pills  
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- The backlight is also hit-or-miss upon reboot or resume. Sometimes it comes on, sometimes it doesn't.
Same History...

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- GUI package manager still crashes and causes full Zaurus freezes.
Did you notice that if you are still able to connect by ssh?
Z is alive but QPE (the graphics "manager") is dead.
/etc/init.d/opie restart
turns the lcd on again... fully working.

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I just wish I could figure out how to get the development environment up and running on my FC3 system so I could at least try to help out. Unfortunately I can't even seem to get a working image to compile.
My wish too.. there should be more documentation on this.
Did you try
http://kegel.com/crosstool/crosstool-0.31/...tool-howto.html  ?
I just downloaded yesterday.
Maybe is the right tool. I don´t know.

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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2005, 01:17:17 am »
Quote from: tristezo2k,Apr 14 2005, 11:03 PM
Quote from: linuxwhore,Apr 14 2005, 04:28 PM
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I just wish I could figure out how to get the development environment up and running on my FC3 system so I could at least try to help out. Unfortunately I can't even seem to get a working image to compile.

My wish too.. there should be more documentation on this.
Did you try
http://kegel.com/crosstool/crosstool-0.31/...tool-howto.html  ?
I just downloaded yesterday.
Maybe is the right tool. I don´t know.

Wow! I remeber I had read this somewhere..
the problem for me are the 512MB  
http://www.openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted
That must be the starters give for OE.
Regards.

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