Z6000l 3.5.3 Experiences

[Gondola]

I've tried installing some packages from the OZ site, but everything blows up very spectacularly (from CLI), saying things like, filesystem full, can't write to files, bizzare paths that start with "//", and things like that.

Minimo just croaks, no error message or anything, but I haven't tried from the CLI to see if I get an error message, or looked at messages or anything.  I need to do that.

Also, I get that odd error about not finding the categories file or the categories file is corrupt.  I forget the exact error, the OE Forums weren't responding earlier when I had it on the screen to see and post the exact message.

GPE *looks* really nice, and I would really like to be able to use it, but a lot of things seem to be broken, for me at least.  Probably mistakes on my part or lack of knowledge.

Sorry--I thought you were having gui rather than wep problems.

Any luck with ssl, usename password on websites w/ minimo?

ideas on gpe package weirdness (like it must be user error?)

Has anyone else tried gpe?
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[adf]

Hmmm. i mirrored OZ and put the feed on my cf.  I then manually edited /etc/ipkg.conf to point to the variuos subdirs in that feed. I still had issues w/ installation.

What you are describing, versus what I am describing, is sugestive of a flashing problem-- something isn't goin right and causing errors. this happened on Qtopia 2.1 too.
in Qtopis the solution was to flash to factory fresh sharp then reflash. maybe that should be tried here too?

[Gondola]

"Potential flashing issue":

Just FYI, I installed GPE on top of Opie.  I can do a NAND restore to stock if you think that will help.

"categories":

When I boot into GPE, from a "reboot", I got an empty error message box.  If I click on it, the message displays:  "unable to open database: /root/gpe/categories".  The screen doesn't refresh, and I can move this window around (black background) leaving orphan Error windows all over until I "OK" it.

Minimo:

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** ERROR **: Cannot open config file!
aborting..
Aborted
I did some Googling to try to figure out where the config file is supposed to reside and what it should be called, but I couldn't find anything.

wlan/suspend:

I had some weirdness with the wlan too.  When the Z suspended, my ssh session to the Z went down (obviously) but when it came out of suspend and supposedly brought the wlan back up (the panel gizmo stated the network connection was established), I couldn't reconnect.  wlan disappeared and I had to reboot to get it back.  However, I understand the suspend issues are likely normal based on my reading of the release notes.. just stating my experiences.

Hmmm. i mirrored OZ and put the feed on my cf.  I then manually edited /etc/ipkg.conf to point to the variuos subdirs in that feed. I still had issues w/ installation.

What you are describing, versus what I am describing, is sugestive of a flashing problem-- something isn't goin right and causing errors. this happened on Qtopia 2.1 too.
in Qtopis the solution was to flash to factory fresh sharp then reflash. maybe that should be tried here too?
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[adf]

I dunno. we have the same device, but different issues as a result of a supposedly fresh installation. That can't be right. I doubt one of our Zs has flaked out without us knowing.
So.... the problem is maybe in the installation?

To get a "uniform installation experience" maybe a nand restore to factory fresh condition is in order?

Obviously i'm guessing...

[Gondola]

Unless I get a brick out of it, what harm can it do?  I'll go ahead and NAND restore then reinstall GPE and report back here after.

I dunno. we have the same device, but different issues as a result of a supposedly fresh installation. That can't be right. I doubt one of our Zs has flaked out without us knowing.
So.... the problem is maybe in the installation?

To get a "uniform installation experience" maybe a nand restore to factory fresh condition is in order?

Obviously i'm guessing...
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[Gondola]

Preliminary findings (been a bit busy, so haven't tested much).

Anyway, restored from stock Sharp NAND backup.
Installed OZ353GPE over that.

Copied my interfaces file back over, brought the wifi up no problem.
Ran minimo, no crash this time.  I don't know if I like Minimo all that much.  Its rendering leaves a lot to be desired (tables go boom).  Also it's very slow, although maybe some cache tweaking can help that.

Have yet to test for installing ipks and such, so, more to come tomorrow.

Unless I get a brick out of it, what harm can it do?  I'll go ahead and NAND restore then reinstall GPE and report back here after.

[adf]

so.... we have confirmed something of a flashing issue maybe? (I've been messing with guylhem rom today and will check the "clean setup" gpe flash tomorrow)

[adf]

Ok. a clean "factory" setup seems to be helpful. reset before flashing to oz?  (is there an issue with the updater?--same prob maybe same updater in qtopia 2.1?)

I'm mostly interested in gpe. Opie looked well done, as usual, and better functioning on the 6k this time around.

gxine seems like just what was needed. I can't get any streams yet, but the idea is exactly right.

minimo, after many resets an uninstalling reinstaling and general fiddling WILL NOT send identification/usernames, etc  from login boxes.  seems like it should be fixable--the version in 3.5.2 didn't do this-- but it is a big problem. Is this just me? if not maybe it should be looked at more carefully? feedback 600 users?

PrBOOM. There IS a prboom and a prboom-opie in the feeds. why does prboom (non0-opie_ ask me for libqpe?

This is an almost-ready-for-primetime release.  The gui settings stuff needs to be fixed, as all know. The package installer has improved greatly but could go a bit further. Both easily worked around.

minimo needs to work.

I guess some bitbaking and a little use of the commandline and this will be good to go.
(I sure hope I get some feedback on my oe error)

[Gondola]

I believe I read in one of the many many threads about OZ that it doesn't re-write the /home directory.  So perhaps something in /home (user directories, permissions, existing files) is screwing up minimo.

For me, minimo in this incarnation is useless.  Tables don't work right.  Usernames/passwords don't get passed.

Wifi is useless in this incarnation as well.  wlan0 disappears after a suspend, which means a reboot after every suspend.. which is not gonna work for me.  Makes it impractical to use.

I *could* overcome the minimo problem by installing another browser, but the wifi problem is a dealbreaker.

[lardman]

I believe I read in one of the many many threads about OZ that it doesn't re-write the /home directory. So perhaps something in /home (user directories, permissions, existing files) is screwing up minimo.

Try ~/.minimo

Use ls - a

Wifi is useless in this incarnation as well. wlan0 disappears after a suspend, which means a reboot after every suspend.. which is not gonna work for me. Makes it impractical to use.

What happens if you 'cardctl eject && cardctl insert'


Si

[adf]

what is ~/minimo?

wireless is pretty easy with ifup/ifdown. just do ifup aagain when you come out of suspension.

if my oe (see thread on oe) were working id build firefox and mess with minimo at leisure (maybe rebuild that too)

what would reading/writing to home do to keep minimo from sending info? why seemingly just on the 6k?  yargh. this makes very little sense... does minimo send itself a cookie before sending data?

[Gondola]

lardman:

What happens if you 'cardctl eject && cardctl insert'

This worked to resurrect my internal wifi!  Thanks!  I'll have to write a script to do that, then ifup the interface, and make it available as an icon so I don't have to go to terminal all the time.

adf:

what is ~/minimo?

I assume it's where minimo stores your preferences/minimo conf file?

wireless is pretty easy with ifup/ifdown. just do ifup aagain when you come out of suspension.

Mine wouldn't work with a simple ifdown/ifup.  The cardctl eject/insert command that lardman posted worked.

if my oe (see thread on oe) were working id build firefox and mess with minimo at leisure (maybe rebuild that too)

I'd like to get a working compile environment too.  Is it documented on the OZ site on how to do that?  For the 6k?

what would reading/writing to home do to keep minimo from sending info? why seemingly just on the 6k?  yargh. this makes very little sense... does minimo send itself a cookie before sending data?

I was referring to the fact that minimo wouldn't even start for me after installing GPE over my Opie install; if /home doesn't get erased and written from scratch, perhaps something already in /home from the Opie install was fubaring my minimo.  Aside from that, I don't know from minimo, except that it can't render tables right for me, which sucks.

I'll have to find a Firefox/Konqueror or some other alternative to minimo.  I like GPE and would like to make it my fulltime OS on my Z.

[adf]

yeah--see the openemmbedded.org wiki getting started page.
getting oe going isn't too terrible.

the browser thing is a pain.  I was really looking forward to a working minimo.  I guess there will be one soon enough
I currently have no idea how to keep it builkding 3.5.3, though... it has changed and builds nothing atm.

I'm sure lardman knows.

off to the oe forum

[lardman]

what is ~/minimo?

Not alot , but if you put the dot back in: ~/.minimo - it is the config file for minimo as Gondola said.


Si

[adf]

 
yeah. it is. lmao

the point being that the config file bears editing..
I'll have a look later on.