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walkmankind

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« on: April 26, 2005, 03:21:39 pm »
Alright, heres the deal:

I recently bought a SL -5500 and wanted to put this nice looking build on it. I put the Opie image and renamed it and used the 40 24 zImage and renamed it accordingly. Now I loaded it on my CF card using my printer as a CF reader. I go through all the steps...works fine. Now when I go to boot up the system after I go through the steps it just sits there with the SHARP title in red and a blinking cursor in the bottom right hand screen. Please help me!! I don't know how to boot it up. Did I miss a step? Thanks in advance

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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2005, 04:36:17 pm »
This got to be the most prominent FAQ since the first alternative ROM debuted. It's very sad that this question still pops up frequently for 3 years now

It's a shot in the face of all open source developers devoting their precious free time to something which they share for free with you and then you rather request more time from them instead of trying to do _one_ lousy search.

A sad day.

*parrot mode*

Sharp title = Sharp kernel. You didn't flash the OZ kernel. You forgot to reset after flashing or your OS hides extensions or you have a wrong MD5 sum or your CF card is broken or you have bad karma.

*/parrot mode*

P.S. Sorry for you personally, since this flame surely comes as a surprise for you, but maybe you can at least try to understand how frustrating it is to answer the same questions for three years now because people think their time is more worth than yours.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2005, 04:40:43 pm by Mickeyl »
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2005, 04:46:04 pm »
Sorry, like I said I am new to this.  Sorry to offend you, What exactly do you mean by flash I followed the steps on the install page...   thanks I did reset Before I put the battery case on though, if that helps. How can I tell the MD5 sum?

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2005, 04:56:10 pm »
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This got to be the most prominent FAQ since the first alternative ROM debuted. It's very sad that this question still pops up frequently for 3 years now

It's a shot in the face of all open source developers devoting their precious free time to something which they share for free with you and then you rather request more time from them instead of trying to do _one_ lousy search.

A sad day.

*parrot mode*

Sharp title = Sharp kernel. You didn't flash the OZ kernel. You forgot to reset after flashing or your OS hides extensions or you have a wrong MD5 sum or your CF card is broken or you have bad karma.

*/parrot mode*

P.S. Sorry for you personally, since this flame surely comes as a surprise for you, but maybe you can at least try to understand how frustrating it is to answer the same questions for three years now because people think their time is more worth than yours.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2005, 04:58:52 pm »
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P.S. Sorry for you personally, since this flame surely comes as a surprise for you, but maybe you can at least try to understand how frustrating it is to answer the same questions for three years now because people think their time is more worth than yours.
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Apparently, you're the one who thinks your time isn't valuable, as you continue to respond to these FAQs.  Or do you just like to complain?

It's frustrating for new users too, you know.  This information you refer to is scattered everywhere.

If a question isn't worth your time - DON'T ANSWER IT!
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2005, 06:24:09 pm »
Heh, actually I took the time to answer it. Read the complete post.

Besides, I really don't know what's so hard in typing "openzaurus flash problem" into the search form and reading the first (!!) entry:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...s+flash+problem

I guess I'm too much used trying to educate people. Reading is so much more important than writing and especially when it's so easy to use the search function. You probably have no clue what I'm talking about, but the fact how manners are evolving through the use of digital media is scaring the hell out of me. When the same questions are asked over and over, the knowledgable people just disappear and this kills a healthy community. I've seen it on many mailing lists and actually I like this forum and would be sad if this would happen to it as well.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2005, 06:37:27 pm by Mickeyl »
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2005, 08:10:47 am »
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Apparently, you're the one who thinks your time isn't valuable, as you continue to respond to these FAQs. Or do you just like to complain?

Looks like I suffer from the same problem

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How can I tell the MD5 sum?

Do a google for 'md5sum and windows' - grab the first binary you come to (there are about 3 in the top 3 links iirc).

Run this in a command prompt with the file as an argument - it will spit out a number - compare this to the known good value which is in a txt doc in the dir where you downloaded the images.


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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2005, 11:52:09 am »
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Heh, actually I took the time to answer it. Read the complete post.

That was my point - I didn't think that FAQ worthy of your time, and thought you said as much in your first reply!

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Besides, I really don't know what's so hard in typing "openzaurus flash problem" into the search form and reading the first (!!) entry:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...s+flash+problem

No argument there!

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I guess I'm too much used trying to educate people. Reading is so much more important than writing and especially when it's so easy to use the search function. You probably have no clue what I'm talking about, but the fact how manners are evolving through the use of digital media is scaring the hell out of me. When the same questions are asked over and over, the knowledgable people just disappear and this kills a healthy community. I've seen it on many mailing lists and actually I like this forum and would be sad if this would happen to it as well.
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I agree, it is far more important to do the reading.

I think the problem is this: When someone runs into a problem, like this user did, they have two choices:
 1) Do the web search and find the damn answer!
 2) POst a question

There are people out there, as I'm *SURE* you know  , that would take choice #2 - after all,  it's easier, isn't it?

If the users keep getting quick results with #2, why bother with #1? That's the point I was trying to make.  

Perhaps some other users of the forum could have answered this particular users's question.  This would no doubt save frustration for you, don't you think?

And the phenomenon you describe isn't specific to digital media, IMO... Notice how other drivers on the road won't hesitate to "flip you the bird" from within the safe confines of their own vehicle? Those same people act differently face-to-face.  Digital media provides the same feeling of imperviousness.
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