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KwaiFeh

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« on: May 08, 2005, 09:14:56 am »
Hello everyone.
Just out of curiosity, I've had my Z for over a month now, most of the time just testing its ability to act as a video/mp3 player.  And i´ve gone through quite a lot of writing and deleting large (300 mb+ video files), and adding mp3 files in between. so i'm sure my hdd3 partition should be quite fragmented.

Can you defrag the microdrive inside the SL-3000? And if you could, is it worth the hassle?

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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2005, 12:01:31 pm »
Hi there!
Generally UNIX based operating systems like Linux do not suffer from significant filesystem fragmentation as long as there is some free space left.
I haven't seen a degrag program specially designed for the Zaurus, but to be honest the transfer rate and seek time specifications for the microdrive arn't that impressive, so I wouldn't bother.

If your're really bothered, you could copy as much as you can off the Zaurus then restore it; but if I were you I wouldn't waste my time.

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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2005, 12:35:59 pm »
I think it's probably a legitimate question since most of the drive is by default formatted as FAT. True, if you had ext3, reiserfs or xfs you wouldn't be worrying about fragmentation but FAT is vulnerable.

Again advice is probably move everything off and then back on. I don't know of a FAT defrag tool for Linux (although I haven't looked very hard).

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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2005, 03:11:24 pm »
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Hi there!
Generally UNIX based operating systems like Linux do not suffer from significant filesystem fragmentation as long as there is some free space left.
I haven't seen a degrag program specially designed for the Zaurus, but to be honest the transfer rate and seek time specifications for the microdrive arn't that impressive, so I wouldn't bother.

If your're really bothered, you could copy as much as you can off the Zaurus then restore it; but if I were you I wouldn't waste my time.

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For linux, that's generally true, but the filesystem on hdd3 is Fat32, which is subject to fragmentation.

I don't know if you can use windows to defrag a USB device or not... It probably isn't worth it, though. It's just as easy to copy everything off and back on hdd3 anyway.

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« Last Edit: May 08, 2005, 03:18:59 pm by kahm »
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2005, 10:49:15 pm »
Windows can defrag USB drives so if you really want to defrag your Z, plug it in via the usb cable and let windows do the wonders
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2005, 01:30:58 am »
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Windows can defrag USB drives so if you really want to defrag your Z, plug it in via the usb cable and let windows do the wonders
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2005, 09:17:22 am »
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I don't know of a FAT defrag tool for Linux (although I haven't looked very hard).
i believe a fsck.vfat would do the trick no?! there is also a fsck.msdos for completeness i suppose ;-)
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2005, 07:52:57 am »
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I don't know of a FAT defrag tool for Linux (although I haven't looked very hard).
i believe a fsck.vfat would do the trick no?! there is also a fsck.msdos for completeness i suppose ;-)
i love linux  

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i thought fsck was for checking and fixing corrupted filesystems like chkdsk and norton disk doctor. if it defrags as well, then it would be great
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2005, 08:05:03 am »
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i thought fsck was for checking and fixing corrupted filesystems like chkdsk and norton disk doctor. if it defrags as well, then it would be great

of course !
i was completely out of topic... and out of order  
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