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samac

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« on: June 03, 2005, 05:59:25 am »
I ask this because I have had to reboot my Zaurus probably 10 or 15 times since installing 3.5.3, compared to the 1 or 2 times with 3.5.2.

Each time it is different, sometimes it is package manager, sometimes it just freezes whilst using a program e.g. I was reading a book with gutenbrowser, bookmarked my page, closed the program, and then just a desktop, nothing else worked.

This has happened with more than one program.

Sometimes when I start froot, my favourite game, the center pad doesn't work, the rest works but it will not restart opie to correct the problem, another reset.

Each reset requires /etc/resolv.conf to be modified with a nameserver entry, which appears to be linked to somewhere in /var, I am sure there is a good reason, but would it not just be simpler to leave it as a real file in /etc.

This is only a minor rant, because on the whole 3.5.3 appears faster and well constructed, but somehow less stable.

samac
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2005, 10:01:33 am »
I used to have this problem until I created a swap file on my sd card.  I created a swap file of 8Meg and this made the OZ much more stable. I also do not think it is OZ that is crashing it loks like opie crashes but there is no way of restarting it without connecting via SSH (or flicking the battery switch).

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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2005, 10:53:34 am »
I am also rebooting a lot, although all of the reasons are usual suspects--the well-documented problems with suspend/resume, mostly.

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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2005, 10:55:49 am »
Same here, what I could do with is a large red reset button on my Z save having to rip the back off everyday.

I can honestly say I am yet to see a day of using the Zaurus without a reset, that said it doesn't stop it from being my favorite ROM
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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2005, 01:10:12 pm »
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I am also rebooting a lot, although all of the reasons are usual suspects--the well-documented problems with suspend/resume, mostly.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=82645\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Where would I find these well documented problems? But more importantly well documented fixes.

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I used to have this problem until I created a swap file on my sd card.

I have a single 256mb partition on my SD card and do not want to have to start again, is there a way do add a swap partition without destructively re-partitioning.

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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2005, 01:12:06 pm »
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Same here, what I could do with is a large red reset button on my Z save having to rip the back off everyday.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=82647\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Just flick the switch to replace battery from normal operation will reboot the Z, then put back to normal operation and switch on.

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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2005, 03:42:07 pm »
You don't need to add a swap partition you can just add a swap file in your existing partition.
The instructions can be found here:
https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Creating_a_Swap_File

I also believe you can use a program called qswap but I have never tried this.

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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2005, 04:03:11 am »
I will have a look at adding the swap file like this, but adding it to the ram will just reduce the amount of memory the Z has for working.

I use the 64-0 image and so have usually 32mb free memory, however I will be able to modify the thread to add the swap file to the SD card, which will be slower but will be new virtual memory.

I will let you know the results when I have done.

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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2005, 04:31:51 am »
I have created my swap file on the SD card and it works OK. Some people believe this is a bad idea as the constant writing to the SD card will wear it out but SD cards are getting cheaper all the time so I think it is a small price to pay. And it gives me the ideal excuse to buy a new and bigger SD card.

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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2005, 04:34:31 am »
There's a really nice memory monitoring applet for the Opie's taskbar. I ony have 48MB of RAM on my Z but according to this app my memory is never more than three quarters full so I have naver bothered with a swap file or parrtition. The app also has a nice way of making a swapfile on an SD card

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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2005, 04:46:34 am »
I found the suspend resume thread, and that may have been the cause of some of the problems, so I have modified the correct file and hopefully that will make thinks more stable.

Will probably still try the swap file but will have to re-install the memory applet first.

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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2005, 05:16:13 am »
OK installed the memory applet, created a swap file, but then removed it, because I just don't see me using that much memory at once. Even after starting gutenbrowser and loading a book I still had 22mb spare.

Though modifying for the suspend resume problem has made connecting to the USB network more of a problem, but I will add that to another thread.

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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2005, 10:43:05 am »
As I said my Z's RAM is never full. It's best to find out if you need swap otherwise there's no point in having one.

As for the who sus/res issue I think you'll want to put that line back. I too removed that line but it has a string of side effects. The best thing to do is thus, sus your Z with menu sus button.