Author Topic: Help With Openzaurus Package Installation (Read 4741 times)

schotty · « **on:** June 17, 2005, 08:58:35 am »

Hello.

Last evening I updated to the latest OpenZaurus and am trying to install a few applications that I grabbed, such as Hancom and such. Unfortunately the packages will not install. Any ideas? Are there specific apps that are for the OpenZaurus, as opposed to the ones that worked on the Sharp QTopia 3.10 release?

TIA

jomo · « **Reply #1 on:** June 17, 2005, 09:47:27 am »

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Hello.

Last evening I updated to the latest OpenZaurus and am trying to install a few applications that I grabbed, such as Hancom and such. Unfortunately the packages will not install. Any ideas? Are there specific apps that are for the OpenZaurus, as opposed to the ones that worked on the Sharp QTopia 3.10 release?

TIA
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Backwards compatibility with Qtopia was 'broken' several versions ago in Open Zaurus/Opie. Sharp is still using a very old Linux Kernel, while Opie/Oz uses a much more modern kernel (2.6 vs. 2.4 in Sharp). Apps compiled for use with the older kernel need a compatibility library installed. Even then, you will have to jump through a couple of hoops and find a version of the Hancom apps that works with the compatibility libraries. You should be able to get the compatibility libraries from the Oz/Opie Feed. With the libraries installed, you'll get another Launcher Tab containing a couple of programs. One of these programs will enable you to select what software to run on top of the compatibility libraries. Select Hancom and your other apps and you should be able to run them normally after that. Search around on the Opie/Oz forums on this site for more clues.

--Jomo

schotty · « **Reply #2 on:** June 17, 2005, 12:09:03 pm »

Hmm. How does one use the feed? I dont have a wireless connector, nor the usb ethernet. And from what I see the cradle doesnt work either. These feeds dont show anything, and Opie's site is a wiki that isnt done.

I am lost, and quickly looking at reverting not to 3.10, but to 2.78. Things at least worked then.

lardman · « **Reply #3 on:** June 17, 2005, 04:41:49 pm »

First of all which Zaurus do you have?

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How does one use the feed? I dont have a wireless connector, nor the usb ethernet.

You need to be able to connect to the internet to use the feed. You can always download the entire feed and place it on a CF card/your local computer and use it from there.

Out of interest, why don't you have working usb ethernet? Hardware or software (fixable) issues?

Si

schotty · « **Reply #4 on:** June 19, 2005, 07:04:45 pm »

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First of all which Zaurus do you have?

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How does one use the feed? I dont have a wireless connector, nor the usb ethernet.

You need to be able to connect to the internet to use the feed. You can always download the entire feed and place it on a CF card/your local computer and use it from there.

Out of interest, why don't you have working usb ethernet? Hardware or software (fixable) issues?

Si
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It wont talk to anything. I can see the unit there (ping) but no daemon seems to be running and the firewall is now cleared out on the Zaurus.

Now, I run Linux on several machines, from Red Hat (Fedora) and Slackware and Linspire (which I am typing from now in fact). I dont see how I should have a difficult time doing the work, its just discovering what the work is. I cannot locate any specific place to get the software that is supposed to work on OZ, just the QTopia crap (well at least the software worked as advertised, so I cant really piss to bad now can I ...).

I checked the Opie site and there are links, but they arent working yet -- just some half done wiki that wants me to add info. If there isnt a list, fine. Lets build one. Because I am sure that I am not the first, nor the last bum to come whining on this board. So count me in for aiding in creating a list, hell I can even host it

Thanks! I do really appreciate the help.

lardman · « **Reply #5 on:** June 20, 2005, 05:37:00 am »

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I cannot locate any specific place to get the software that is supposed to work on OZ, just the QTopia crap (well at least the software worked as advertised, so I cant really piss to bad now can I ...).

http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/

Docs are also on that site, feel free to add to them.

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It wont talk to anything. I can see the unit there (ping) but no daemon seems to be running and the firewall is now cleared out on the Zaurus.

You can ping the Zaurus from your desktop box? Can you ping back from the Zaurus to the desktop?

Si

schotty · « **Reply #6 on:** June 20, 2005, 04:40:11 pm »

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I cannot locate any specific place to get the software that is supposed to work on OZ, just the QTopia crap (well at least the software worked as advertised, so I cant really piss to bad now can I ...).

http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/

Docs are also on that site, feel free to add to them.

Actually I take that back. Neither linux nor windows can see it. And the Zaurus doesnt see the PC.

Also, I went to the feed link and downloaded alot of stuff, and all of it will not install. This time I get no error message, the Zaurus just locks up while at the installing package dialouge box. I know that since the clock stops and the unit becomes unresponsive.

lardman · « **Reply #7 on:** June 21, 2005, 06:27:59 am »

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Actually I take that back. Neither linux nor windows can see it. And the Zaurus doesnt see the PC.

In that case the package manager won't work.

In any case I'd recommend using ipkg from the command line rather than the GUI package manager.

There are a number of HowTos on the openzaurus.org website about getting a USB connection to a Linux box - there are also some howtos on this website (there's a pinned howto in the openzaurus/common thread for example iirc).

Please take a look at these two and see if yo ucan get it connected, if not let us know and we'll see what we can do to help,

Si

schotty · « **Reply #8 on:** June 21, 2005, 08:10:29 am »

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In that case the package manager won't work.

In any case I'd recommend using ipkg from the command line rather than the GUI package manager.

Thanks. I will try that out. I have been busy with work, side-work, and school lately, so I may not get to this as soon as I would hope, but I will. On the bright side, I did get the unit to talk to XP. I will try Linspire later. Otherwise I plan on trying out and settingup some docs for Fedora 4 on my linux forum I mod at . I never had a problem with anything Red Hat.

schotty · « **Reply #9 on:** June 21, 2005, 04:48:47 pm »

No dice. All packages die with weird errors. The most prevalent is a gunzip error. I also get a no architecture defined error as well.

Is OpenZaurus supposed to work?

lardman · « **Reply #10 on:** June 22, 2005, 05:14:30 am »

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Is OpenZaurus supposed to work?

It's not only supposed to work, it does work.

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No dice. All packages die with weird errors. The most prevalent is a gunzip error. I also get a no architecture defined error as well.

gunzip error means that the package is probably corrupted.

No arch defined is interesting - what exactly were you trying to install, and can you provide the output of ipkg too.

Si

schotty · « **Reply #11 on:** June 22, 2005, 08:19:10 am »

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Is OpenZaurus supposed to work?

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It's not only supposed to work, it does work.

Thats good

I was hoping this still wasnt in the experimental stages. So many linux projects are these days.

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No dice. All packages die with weird errors. The most prevalent is a gunzip error. I also get a no architecture defined error as well.

gunzip error means that the package is probably corrupted.

No arch defined is interesting - what exactly were you trying to install, and can you provide the output of ipkg too.

Hmm. Maybe I can copy it. I think I could copy it to a text file and transfer it to the pc using my CF card. But as to corruption, unless my port in the Z is bad, I bought a new card and tried redownloading and copying over the files several times.

Now as for the arch issue -- that was I think just Hancom. Not positive, maybe a few others. The rest all had the "couldnt kill guunzip process *** aborting" message.

Now for file transferage using the cradle -- just to get this out of the way -- do I need to do anything special? I got the pc and z sides setup TCP wise. but is there a daemon I need to start or anything? That concievably could be the issue. I can now ping it, but thats it. I ran "ps -A" and got alot of stuff running, but nothing that stood out as a SMB or NFS daemon or anything. Perhaps I just dont know the name (well probably is that...).

Thanks again. I will try to redownload the files and instead of doing an "ipkg install *.ipk" perhaps I can script it to a:

for i in ls *.ipk; do ipkg install $i; done;

or something to that effect.

Thanks again!

lardman · « **Reply #12 on:** June 22, 2005, 01:44:40 pm »

Try adding the upgrades feed and running: 'ipkg install ipkg'. There were some issues in the version which shipped with the 3.5.3 images (not sure if this is part of the problem for you).

Si

schotty · « **Reply #13 on:** July 12, 2005, 03:39:50 pm »

I reinstalled the flash, using the 48-16 image and things work now. I still have segfaults galore, but I think thats because of the memory running low. I will post back with those results.

Sorry to disappear and not let y'll know what happened, I got too busy to play with this thing.

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