KOrganizer / KO/Pi (KOrganizer Platform independent)

[LadyBug]

I certainly agree with the somebody who asked a cross-out
possibility for calendar entries. It was a great feature in Psion
Calendar, and I have suggested it also to the Evolution dev
team (but they\'re busy doing more critical stuff there).

The point being that my calendar also acts as my memory.
If an appointment is canceled, I\'d like to cross it out instead
of deleting it. It\'s the same with paper calendar, do you just
draw a line over an item or take an eraser to wipe it?

This has the good point (especially for me) that I can
look back in time and remember the days better. \"Ah,
this was the day I was supposed to meet client X, but
he canceled and I was doing Y instead\".

Or if I have two or even three events occurring nearly
simultaneously, I can cross out the events I\'m not attending.
The fact that I\'m not attending the function doesn\'t remove
the event nor necessarily the need for me to be aware
of it.

Visually the Psion calendar just drew a horizontal line across
the event name.

[jpl]

First, Zautrix thanks this is a great app. I\'ve almost completely abandoned the Sharp Calendar. Can you provide a little more information on the syncing with DTM. I\'ve loaded Ko/Pi  1.6.6b. I can select the Sync with Sharp Calendar function. Then it goes through the Reading events..., Syncing, Adding, Removing and Summary. Summary shows 598 Items added to Local, 606 Items added to remote. Click OK, Shows Writing DTM data but no progress bar like windows above. Then KO/Pi closes. Checking both KO/Pi and Sharp Calendar no data has been transfered from Sharp Calendar to KO/Pi or from KO/Pi to Sharpe Calendar.

Using, 5500 with Sharp 3.1 ROM

Thanks again for a great app and all the hard work.

JPL

[cortez]

I do not understand what you do mean with the \"cross out option\".
Can you give some more information?

Crossed out entries are displayed like <STRIKE>Feed dog</STRIKE> in HTML. Instead of deleting the entry, it is just visually marked, indicating a canceled entry, for instance a meeting.

- Cortez -

[Morpheus]

I\'ve just stumbled across this thread, and as I was reading through, I\'ve downloaded ver 1.5 and ZiCal, then uninstalled it and upgraded to 1.6.6!  Guess I was just to eager to install KO/Pi before reading the complete thread. I can not believe how impressive this application is....especially now that DTM syncing is available for the 5600.

One bug I noticed during install is that it seems to create a New application Tab called \'Pim\' when I assume its supposed to install into the already existing \'PIM\' tab.  It\'s easy enough to move though, so I would say this is a very minor bug.

[mcamou]

very, very nice! KO/Pi is wonderful!

A couple of things:
- The korganizer.desktop file should have 644 permissions instead of 640 and should belong to group qpe (at least on the C760). I assume that changing the permissions shouldn\'t affect the 5xxx/6xxx series.
- Would it be possible to have a way of using keyboard navigation when the ToDo panel is visible? The up-down keys move between ToDo\'s and the left-right keys between dates, but it would be nice a way of shifting the up-down focus to the appointment panel without using the stylus or closing the ToDo panel. Perhaps using Tab?
- Any news on KAddressBook?

[Morpheus]

@JPL, I\'ve experienced the same problem.  The first time i ever synced with DTM went ok, but second time (i only had 7 items to sync) it sat there on the \'writing DTM\' with no progress, then I got a \'Device low on memory, this app is forced to close.\' dialog.  KO/Pi was the only thing running at the time.

@ZAUTRIX, How much memory does it use for normal operation?  does this memory requirement increase when it is writing to the Sharp DTM?

Thanks

Jason

[david_dahan]

ZAUTRIX, You have a working DTM Read/Write mechanism , so why do you need a separate data base - You can use DTM data base directly and to be in sync all the time ?

thanks,
David .

[snufkin]

Hi, I was impressed by the posts here and decided to install KO/Pi to have a trial.  I\'ve downloaded v1.6.6b, installed it in my C760 (cacko rom) and DTM-sync with my Sharp Calendar.  That could be completed successfully, syncing 580 items to KO/Pi.

However, after getting those 580 items, the s/w became incredibly slow. For every change (like change view, change config, change date, ....), it took a few minutes to finish.  Checking the CPU usage, it\'s always 100%.

Anyway this is a very brilliant s/w and it\'s really my dream PIM in Zaurus.

[danr]

ZAUTRIX, You have a working DTM Read/Write mechanism , so why do you need a separate data base - You can use DTM data base directly and to be in sync all the time ?  

thanks,
David .

I think this allows him to sync with a number of formats (DTM, icalendar etc.)

Dan

[bluedevils]

Yes I think it is better long term solution to use standard formats than use sharp\'s propietary.  What\'s to stop sharp from changing again?

[ChrisEBoy]

Ko/Pi is also designed to be cross platform, sharps format is definitely not that.

[Morpheus]

I don\'t think the DTM format supports todo alarms, todo %age task complete and probably some other things I haven\'t discovered yet.  

I would be quite happy to use the DTM syncronization method currently implemented if it would actually work.  After yesterday\'s attempt, I thought I\'d try again. This time, when trying to write the DTM, the Zaurus locked up for about a minute, the rebooted.  I didnt have any other apps running, so i didnt lose anything.

This looks like an excellent package, but unfortunately it\'s rendered completely unuseable to me because of this instability.

Zautrix, keep up the good work....I hope you can find out what the bug is.  if you need me to help with testing, let me know.

Jason

[zautrix]

Hi, thanks a lot for your feedback.
There is some strange problem when syncing.
Until this is not solved, I advice to consider the syncing with DTM as \"experimental\".


@danr
Strange, that the db2file was left out when installing.
What do you mean exactly with your minor feature request?

@raybert
your suggestion with the pre/post scripts are good.
I will try to implement this later.

@LadyBug
Thank your for the explanation of the \"cross out\".
It sounds very useful to me.
I have to think about how to  implement this.
But I have added the \"cross out\" to my \"todo\" list.

@jpl

There is some problem, when writing data back DTM data.
KO/Pi crashes when writing back data.
Unfortunately, it does work almost every time on my 760.
I did see this only a few times.
It is hard to reproduce for me.

@cortez
I guess, you do mean something like LadyBug has mentioned.
This sounds useful for me.

@Morpheus
The installation in Pim is no bug, I have the Pim Tab on my machine ( 760 with cacko-qtopia rom 1.18

@mcamou
Thx for the permission hints.
I did not see anything from the addressbook yet, but the guy working on it wrote, that there may be a very first version in 3 or 4 weeks.

@Morpheus
Thanks for the \'Device low on memory\' hint.
I will look at this, maybe it helps to find the problem why KO/Pi is crashing when symcing.


@david_dahan
The DTM does not support much features.
The standard for storing calendar data is iCal, which is using KO/Pi.

@snufkin
Yes ther is a problem when syncing.
;aybe your hint about the 100% cpu usage helps to find the problem.

@bluedevils
Thanks for starting the FAQ. I have got your mail.
I want to insert this later directly in the KO/Pi Help menu.

[slocaus]

@zautrix,  HI!, everything is working fine for me on my 5500.  I did see one thing last night, not really a bug, and since I was one of the first synching, thanks to linux, others will probably not see it, unless something changes in synching like it did for me.

After I did the synch using 1.66b, I see the record \"(1/1):ssh-scp - last synch event\".  The record from the previous sync, \"(1/1): last synch event\", was not removed as it always was before, probably because of the different woding for different types of synch with DTM now.  Anyway I deleted the old record in KOrganizer (can\'t do it in KO/Pi) on my Linux desktop, synced again and all is well.

@Morpheus - I changed and used the KO/Pi tab as my \"PIM\" tab, moved all my other \"pim\" apps to the new tab and deleted the \"old pim\" tab. Now I don\'t have to move it each time I install.   I suspect this is some difference between 55/56xx and the C7/8xx models.

[zautrix]

@slocaus:
Yes, sorry, this was my mistake ...
I have used some \"tricks\" for syncing with DTM. One is the introduction of several \"last synch events\" for syncing with different types.
I forgot to implement to remove the \"last synch event\" used before. You can do this by yourself. ( Hehe - not in KO/Pi - it is write protected ).
For syncing with sharp, I have now a \"sharp DTM - last synch event\". I am collecting  the Sharp -IDs of all the events, that you delete on KO/Pi and that are already in the sharp DTM in the description of the \"sharp DTM - last synch event\". To be able to delete them on DTM after next sync as well.

@All:
I have fixed something in KO/Pi, please download 1.6.6c and try syncing with DTM again.
It is does not crash,
please create  a new event in KO/Pi and check, whether it is synced to DTM.
If if does crash, please start KO/Pi from console and let me know the output.

Thx.
z.