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« Reply #165 on: February 27, 2006, 01:19:21 pm »
Thanks for the information on heat dissipation! I'll try to replace the resistor with the smaller one and see if it can power up a wi-fi module without setting the Zaurus on fire

As far as the driver goes, I think it should be possible to load/unload it, but remember to power off 5V OTG regulator before connecting to another host which supports its own power. That was done automatically in Sharp's driver, but I moved this part to userland utility. The clocks are turned off on un-loading the driver the same way as it's done in Sharp's.
Does anyone know how usbd drivers get loaded?
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« Reply #166 on: February 27, 2006, 01:41:38 pm »
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one thing i might mention because i am unsure if you nticed it but PORT 2 is MULTIPLEXED with the USB client port meaning you can have PORT 2 and client at the same time


Yes, lines are multiplexed, so it's either client or host port2, but not both at the same time.
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« Reply #167 on: February 27, 2006, 07:05:06 pm »
Cool! I was wondering if Sharp had brought out the second PXA270 USB port to somewhere easy to get to, and they did!
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« Reply #168 on: February 27, 2006, 09:25:32 pm »
would it be safe to say if a piece of hardware worked on one sub port it will work on the other in question?
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« Reply #169 on: February 28, 2006, 03:31:41 am »
It's really cool you've made it that far.  I just haven't got two things:
1) What is the current version of your BT chipset that you've soldered? It would be nice to have 1.2 or even 2.0;

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2) Is it technically possible (by overclocking and so on) to use any soldered BT chipset to reach true USB speeds like some Mbps? I'm interested in it because of the pretty usable audio profiles like A2DP and because of BT headphones that would be nice to connect to my C3k.
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« Reply #170 on: February 28, 2006, 05:06:50 am »
A2DP works with 1.0 (i have the logitech headphones) but linux support is in the early stages (only supports uLaw 16bit @ 44khz throgh a named pipe, the pipe being the problem)

i dont think i explained clearly with wy multiplex post, Cant PORT 2 be routed out the client pins or to its own pins, i seem to remeber that it had its own IO's for normal usage meaning that there might be another usb port on the board, this would allow you to have port 2 and client at the same time.

just found a nice tiny USB bluetooth dongle thats 14mm wide and 23 mm deep (without antenna, i plan to solder one on) in australia, teseting it now but lookslike i might need to load firmware into it
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« Reply #171 on: February 28, 2006, 05:15:24 am »
just started doing some thinking and recalled that some new laptops had accelermoters in them, do you know where the i2c bus is, i was thinking i could plug one in then shake my pda to go to a random song or swing clockwise to go forward and anti clockwise to go back

wasent sure if you came across it, hope you did, then i could also park the HD heads on falling

[EDIT] SPI would be good as well but im not afraid of a little pic micro glue logic [/EDIT]
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« Reply #172 on: February 28, 2006, 06:21:01 am »
The bluetooth dongle used is the old revision of Billionton Class 2 USB dongle. It's bt spec 1.1 certified, has both UART and USB interfaces available and traced on PCB and supports CSR proprientary BCSP protocol which allows to get away without using hardware flow control in UART mode. More info is here:

http://www.iral.com/~albertr/billionton/

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« Reply #173 on: February 28, 2006, 02:29:17 pm »
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just started doing some thinking and recalled that some new laptops had accelermoters in them, do you know where the i2c bus is, i was thinking i could plug one in then shake my pda to go to a random song or swing clockwise to go forward and anti clockwise to go back

wasent sure if you came across it, hope you did, then i could also park the HD heads on falling

[EDIT] SPI would be good as well but im not afraid of a little pic micro glue logic [/EDIT]
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You might be interested in the old Itsy prototype. Itsy was a Compaq project to make PDA that could be replicated cheaply by hobbyists, and featured an accelerometer that was API accessible. I have a video of Doom being played on it by rocking it in the direction you wanted to move.

Wasn't there a recent patent (by Apple maybe?) patenting a gesture system clearly designed to be used by a device with an accelerometer? (It was covered by a news site)

You might see if you can find a USB gamepad that's small enough to be intergrated that uses an accelerometer. I have Sidewinder Freestyle Pro gamepad with one (very fun to use it with the included motorcycle game), however, it's far too large to be intergrated.

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« Reply #174 on: February 28, 2006, 05:06:31 pm »
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You might see if you can find a USB gamepad that's small enough to be intergrated that uses an accelerometer.
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check out opentom as the TT Go 500 and 700 have accelerometers in them for dead-reckoning (to deduce velocity changes during temporary GPS lock loss)... so that means there's already a driver and stuff.
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« Reply #175 on: February 28, 2006, 06:46:09 pm »
Got the dongle working, it dosnt play nice with hubs, work great and is tiny!!!!! cant wait to put it in, will just have to wait till this weekend so i con sond off for the prototype SBC
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« Reply #176 on: February 28, 2006, 09:36:27 pm »
Congrats! Is it BT or wi-fi dongle?
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« Reply #177 on: March 01, 2006, 05:05:59 am »
i meant on my PC, and its that tiny bluetooth one, its even smaller than the ones on your site (its a fraction larger than the usb connector, but as i said it goes inside my zaurus this weekend, i just have to send the prototype for my single board computer off to be manufactured and i might get the 1GB cxx00 RAM hack board done as well to save time and money, it should be easy to do now that all you need is a soldering iorn
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« Reply #178 on: March 01, 2006, 03:33:44 pm »
1Gb ram? O_o, all I want is 256Mb, that would be nice... my bt dongle is going in next month(have to save for my microdrive replacement.
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« Reply #179 on: March 01, 2006, 03:47:22 pm »
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1Gb ram? O_o, all I want is 256Mb, that would be nice... my bt dongle is going in next month(have to save for my microdrive replacement.
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What ever happened to bt/wifi/ram upgrade on the 3100?  Anyone able? anyone done any of it?
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