Headaches Getting Thunderbird Working

[xfaethorx]

Well done on the success, I shall try that.

What did you type at the command line to install Thunderbird, please?
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make sure your powersettings don't go into suspend or screensaver within say 1hr (best to install big packages whilst your plugged into the mains!).

ok cd into the directory where you have you .ipk located.

then do this..

su
ipkg install FILENAME.ipk

(obviously filename is the ipk you want to install.

what this will do is run the installer from the command line if something goes wrong, i,e your out of space on a device or your misisng a part of the install you'll see it this way where as you wont with the gui installer .

hope that helps .

[rebski]

That was very useful, thank you.  I had assumed that it would be necessary to give the install destination path.

As you say the command line method permits explanation as to what is going wrong. In my case it is “No space left on device”.

What we need is a way of installing these apps to SD card. Failing which I should be kicking myself for buying the C1000 and instead of the C3100.

[xfaethorx]

That was very useful, thank you.  I had assumed that it would be necessary to give the install destination path.

As you say the command line method permits explanation as to what is going wrong. In my case it is “No space left on device”.

What we need is a way of installing these apps to SD card. Failing which I should be kicking myself for buying the C1000 and instead of the C3100.
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good thing to do is if anything installs to /home  copy the dir to say card or hdd and symlink to it from there for that user! I've moved thunderbird and firefox directories to hdd3 in my case.

The C3100 runs out of home space far too quickly its lay out is badly thought out and would have been better to have the home directory mounted on the HDD I may in time just move the entire thing onto the HDD or 2 gig sd card but I want  to get more comfortable with the zaurus as this is my first sharp device.

so far though i've successfully got

ethereal, abiword, thunderbird, firefox and debian installed on my device..although all of them have involved me trawling around for other missing libraries and editing lots of scripts / making symlinks even pissing about with ldconfig.

When it comes down to it you need a good grounding with administrating a linux box to get some of this stuff installed but once it works it works. At the minute my plan is to get everything i need working under X/QT without using debian as its a hog and tbh it doesn't provide me with much that I need. You can edit all the menus and stuff for debian though, I turned of the CPU monitor straight away as that takes up processor time so why bother . X/QT is quicker to launch your applications from and you can configure blackbox for your user from the .blackboxrc file.

[rebski]

I had mistakenly believed that the C3100 Home was on the HDD.

Getting Thunderbird to run from Q/QT is what I want also but I don’t have any Linux or programming experience. In time I am sure things will evolve and the install will become idiot proof.

In the meantime I have to be content that users such as you are able to get it working and the feedback on your experiences is very welcome.

Your tip on moving /home installed apps to sd is a good one and maybe enough space can be freed up to allow Thunderbird to install.

[xfaethorx]

I had mistakenly believed that the C3100 Home was on the HDD.

Getting Thunderbird to run from Q/QT is what I want also but I don’t have any Linux or programming experience. In time I am sure things will evolve and the install will become idiot proof.

In the meantime I have to be content that users such as you are able to get it working and the feedback on your experiences is very welcome.

Your tip on moving /home installed apps to sd is a good one and maybe enough space can be freed up to allow Thunderbird to install.
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you could try moving everything under /home to the SD card and symlinking to it all from there. I'd back everything up before I did that mind incase it causes you major grief as theres a lot of stuff under /home, it might be wise to only move parts of it like the root and zaurus diretories.

you'll end up freeing some space at least . Also from the command line.

use df -h to show what mounted devices have what space left on them.

and use du -h in a directory to find out what in that directory and its subsequent sub diretories is takin up space. I found that when i'd tried to install / uninstall a version of thunderbird that it'd left a lot of crap behind on my system and exhausted /home. Worth a shot in making sure theres nothing on that mount poin tthat you dont need!

[icruise]

Before I got my 3100, I had assumed that the 4GB microdrive would at least be available as an option for installing programs, but it is not. I think maybe part of the reason is that there isn't a good way of backing up the contents of the hard disk. As I mentioned in an earlier thread, my experimentation with Samba shares resulted in a Zaurus that wouldn't boot and had to be restored to the factory settings -- no less than 3 times. Doing this also erases the hard disk. If you install programs on the hard disk, even restoring from a backup won't restore your work environment completely. This is why I am only putting things that are easily replaceable on the hard disk. Things like dictionaries, movie files, etc. I put any documents I create on an SD card.

What is the situation with the 3000?

[mtfbwy]

I have installed Thunderbird and X/Qt but I now get the error "Illegal Instruction" when I fire it up. I had this version working on my C3000 but had to start from scratch after hosing the permissions for /home. Any ideas? I think I had this previously but can't remember what I did to get it working. Firefox works fine.