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« on: August 11, 2005, 02:41:41 pm »
Hi All,

I am new to this forum! I just brought a C3100 and was hoping to get OpenZaurus running on it, but it kill my HDD and my ROM.

Anyone here have a original back copy of the C3100 HDD?

Please help me out.


Thanks in advance,

Abum

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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2005, 02:55:35 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2005, 04:02:31 pm »
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Hi All,

I am new to this forum! I just brought a C3100 and was hoping to get OpenZaurus running on it, but it kill my HDD and my ROM.

Anyone here have a original back copy of the C3100 HDD?

Please help me out.


Thanks in advance,

Abum
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2005, 04:14:59 pm »
dont use the 3000 instructions ..........eeeeeerrrrrr rom image
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2005, 05:15:24 pm »
Hi all,

sorry, posted the answer first in the second thread  

OK, here we go again:

Abum,

the SL-C3100 HDD contains nothing important. All the stuff
there (demo pictures, dictionary files, map files, books'n'stuff)
are also on the 3 CDs that came with the device.

But even with a fresh formatted HDD, a SL-C3100 will boot
without problems. So, if your Zaurus won't boot anymore, it
will be a different problem.

Can you access the Flashmenu ?
If Yes -> Try restore to factory defaults
if No -> Can you access the Diag ?
Yes -> Make a NAND restore
No -> Post more informations.

///TRIsoft

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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2005, 06:24:33 pm »
Thanks for the advise and help!

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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2005, 06:42:30 pm »
Ok here is my whole story...

Day one
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Just received my C3100 and was caught by OpenZaurus.

Day two
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trying to figure out how to install the OZ but failed because the updater.sh detected my model was not <C3000  

Day Three
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decoded the updater.sh and change to C3100, and bingo The OZ installation was successful. Rebooted the machine and I got "Error: hdd1 blablabla..."

Day Four
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ok I have a backup of the original C3100 NAND backup, lets do it. using the DM method, and restored the NAND, reboot and "Error: hdd1 cannot initiate".

Day Five
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Found a copy of hdd1.tgz and mkhdd.sh on the web forgot where. and using the DB method to boot in single mode, and ran the mkhdd.sh and recovered my hard disk and my C3100 was bootable and running fine

Day Six
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Found problems, which the system info showing the rom version is "__.__" it was 1.01 before.


So my big question is how to completed restore my C3100 to factory's default? I mean I want it as it was from Day one, the NAND and the harddisk(data and partition records).

Any idea?

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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2005, 09:09:37 pm »
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Found a copy of hdd1.tgz and mkhdd.sh on the web forgot where. and using the DB method to boot in single mode, and ran the mkhdd.sh and recovered my hard disk and my C3100 was bootable and running fine
Did the hdd1.tar.gz come from http://www.xlfag.com/zaurus? IMHO the hdd1.tgz is for the C3000 and not for the C3100. They have quite a different disk layout. And according to a recent posting, the C3100 should even work without HDD. So, your NAND backup must be the bad one.

AFAIK, the C3000 and C3100 are DIFFERENT in everything that has to do with Flash ROM, Alternate ROM, HDD layout etc. The C3100 is more similar to a C1000 than the C3000.

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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2005, 06:26:37 am »
Hi everybody,

i have to correct my yesterdays posting. The sentence "should
boot even with a fresh formatted HDD" points to the FAT partition
with the "Documents" and dictionary directories.

But there are three partitions on the SL-C3100 HDD. So if the HDD
is totally blank without any partitions, the SL-C3100 won't boot up.
And this is how a SL-C3100 HDD partition table should look like:

/dev/hda1  Start 1  End 20  Blocks 10048+  id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda2  Start 21 End 40  Blocks 10080  id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda3  Start 41 End 7936 Blocks 3979584 id c System Win95 FAT32 (LBA)

/hda1 and /hda2 are 9.5 MB partitions. Each one contains a ".sys" and
a "lost+found" directory. The contents of the .sys-directories are
amazing   :

Files in /hdd1/.sys :
hdimage2.tgz  (2713 Bytes, contains japanese web-bookmarks - hurray !)
hdlist1.dat (85 Bytes, no clue what it's good for)

Files in /hdd2/.sys :
contlist.dat (100156 Bytes)
hdlist2.dat (1427 Bytes)
hdlist3.dat (1519 Bytes)

We just put these files zipped in our download-section:
SL-C3100 SystemPartition contents (90 KB)

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
« Last Edit: August 12, 2005, 06:29:05 am by TRIsoft »

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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2005, 11:59:26 am »
alrite!

Thanks for pointing out.

I'll give it a try tonite.

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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2005, 11:48:04 am »
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Hi everybody,

i have to correct my yesterdays posting. The sentence "should
boot even with a fresh formatted HDD" points to the FAT partition
with the "Documents" and dictionary directories.

But there are three partitions on the SL-C3100 HDD. So if the HDD
is totally blank without any partitions, the SL-C3100 won't boot up.
And this is how a SL-C3100 HDD partition table should look like:

/dev/hda1  Start 1  End 20  Blocks 10048+  id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda2  Start 21 End 40  Blocks 10080  id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda3  Start 41 End 7936 Blocks 3979584 id c System Win95 FAT32 (LBA)

/hda1 and /hda2 are 9.5 MB partitions. Each one contains a ".sys" and
a "lost+found" directory. The contents of the .sys-directories are
amazing   :

Files in /hdd1/.sys :
hdimage2.tgz  (2713 Bytes, contains japanese web-bookmarks - hurray !)
hdlist1.dat (85 Bytes, no clue what it's good for)

Files in /hdd2/.sys :
contlist.dat (100156 Bytes)
hdlist2.dat (1427 Bytes)
hdlist3.dat (1519 Bytes)

We just put these files zipped in our download-section:
SL-C3100 SystemPartition contents (90 KB)

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
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Marc,
Many thanks for this advice! The Phoenix rises!
Repartitoned the MD  with fdisk then # mke2fs -j /dev/hda1,# mke2fs -j /dev/hda2,# mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/hda3. Mount the disks #mount /dev/hda1 /hdd1 etc and copy the files from your download to the relevant disks. Reboot, install and run mcconvert,Reboot and there you go!
Not sure if everyone will need to do the mcconvert. But I had done a reset and a NAND restore.

Thanks again!
Paul

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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2005, 12:16:53 pm »
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...The Phoenix rises!...
Reboot and there you go!
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Paul,

good to hear that your Zaurus is alive again.
And much better to see what things to obey if you
change / replace the harddisk. So thank you for
the testing and the feedback  

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan

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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2005, 12:39:47 pm »
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Hi everybody,

i have to correct my yesterdays posting. The sentence "should
boot even with a fresh formatted HDD" points to the FAT partition
with the "Documents" and dictionary directories.

But there are three partitions on the SL-C3100 HDD. So if the HDD
is totally blank without any partitions, the SL-C3100 won't boot up.
And this is how a SL-C3100 HDD partition table should look like:

/dev/hda1  Start 1  End 20  Blocks 10048+  id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda2  Start 21 End 40  Blocks 10080  id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda3  Start 41 End 7936 Blocks 3979584 id c System Win95 FAT32 (LBA)

/hda1 and /hda2 are 9.5 MB partitions. Each one contains a ".sys" and
a "lost+found" directory. The contents of the .sys-directories are
amazing   :

Files in /hdd1/.sys :
hdimage2.tgz  (2713 Bytes, contains japanese web-bookmarks - hurray !)
hdlist1.dat (85 Bytes, no clue what it's good for)

Files in /hdd2/.sys :
contlist.dat (100156 Bytes)
hdlist2.dat (1427 Bytes)
hdlist3.dat (1519 Bytes)

We just put these files zipped in our download-section:
SL-C3100 SystemPartition contents (90 KB)

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
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Marc,
Many thanks for this advice! The Phoenix rises!
Repartitoned the MD  with fdisk then # mke2fs -j /dev/hda1,# mke2fs -j /dev/hda2,# mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/hda3. Mount the disks #mount /dev/hda1 /hdd1 etc and copy the files from your download to the relevant disks. Reboot, install and run mcconvert,Reboot and there you go!
Not sure if everyone will need to do the mcconvert. But I had done a reset and a NAND restore.

Thanks again!
Paul
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Hi Paul,
After formatting those drives I'm not able to copy HD content files to hda1 and 2. First I tried su then create .sys folder in /hdd1 by using the terminal,  but system returned "Cannot create directory '.sys': Read-only files system. After that I used Tree!Explorer but the problem still remain. Could you please help me out? Thanks!

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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2005, 01:01:49 pm »
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Hi everybody,

i have to correct my yesterdays posting. The sentence "should
boot even with a fresh formatted HDD" points to the FAT partition
with the "Documents" and dictionary directories.

But there are three partitions on the SL-C3100 HDD. So if the HDD
is totally blank without any partitions, the SL-C3100 won't boot up.
And this is how a SL-C3100 HDD partition table should look like:

/dev/hda1  Start 1  End 20  Blocks 10048+  id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda2  Start 21 End 40  Blocks 10080  id 83 System Linux
/dev/hda3  Start 41 End 7936 Blocks 3979584 id c System Win95 FAT32 (LBA)

/hda1 and /hda2 are 9.5 MB partitions. Each one contains a ".sys" and
a "lost+found" directory. The contents of the .sys-directories are
amazing   :

Files in /hdd1/.sys :
hdimage2.tgz  (2713 Bytes, contains japanese web-bookmarks - hurray !)
hdlist1.dat (85 Bytes, no clue what it's good for)

Files in /hdd2/.sys :
contlist.dat (100156 Bytes)
hdlist2.dat (1427 Bytes)
hdlist3.dat (1519 Bytes)

We just put these files zipped in our download-section:
SL-C3100 SystemPartition contents (90 KB)

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
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Marc,
Many thanks for this advice! The Phoenix rises!
Repartitoned the MD  with fdisk then # mke2fs -j /dev/hda1,# mke2fs -j /dev/hda2,# mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/hda3. Mount the disks #mount /dev/hda1 /hdd1 etc and copy the files from your download to the relevant disks. Reboot, install and run mcconvert,Reboot and there you go!
Not sure if everyone will need to do the mcconvert. But I had done a reset and a NAND restore.

Thanks again!
Paul
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Hi Paul,
After formatting those drives I'm not able to copy HD content files to hda1 and 2. First I tried su then create .sys folder in /hdd1 by using the terminal,  but system returned "Cannot create directory '.sys': Read-only files system. After that I used Tree!Explorer but the problem still remain. Could you please help me out? Thanks!
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You have to make the disk rw by doing

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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2005, 01:16:39 pm »
You have to make the disk rw by doing

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Hi GadgetGuy,

Thanks for your help. I tried to remount but it still not working.
By typing ls i saw the folders within /dev/hdd1 are:

"Applications" "Documents" "Settings" instead of lost+found

Is this normal?