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mcander

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« on: August 28, 2005, 07:49:26 pm »
Hi, all-

I have a SL5500, that I have installed the Cacko Rom on, as well as OPIE and GPE.
(at separate times)

I have noticed problems with each- that some of you may be able to help with. Some of these are quite likely "D'oh!" questions,, but they are things that have bothered me.

1)The Cacko rom was great- I was able to install it with the default program pack, and load /home n a 64MB SD card. However, since I was looking for something a little better than the stock setup, I tried Opie.

2)I installed the 3.5.3 ROM, and like what i see, however the media programs that I wanted were not available. So I tried GPE

3)GPS is currently installed on my Z- however, it has a limited set of programs, and is too Gnomish for my taste.

4)For all three I had difficulty installing programs, or getting the Z to talk to my laptop (running either Ubuntu or Suse 9.2, whichever i am in the mood for- I just change out HD's)

If you've read this far you may have figured that my problem is not in installing various ROMS (though I did have some problems with that), but in how to add extgernal packages. the package manager doesnt work, and trying from te command line hasn't either.  I know I'm not the first to run into this issue- what I need is a set of instructions that tell me (from the first console line to the last) how to install a package- most of the instructions that I have seen seem to be skipping some step.

Whatever help I can get would be much appreciated.

Pete

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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2005, 09:06:11 am »
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2)I installed the 3.5.3 ROM, and like what i see, however the media programs that I wanted were not available. So I tried GPE

I presume you mean that you installed OZ 3.5.3 with the Opie GUI to begin with.

What media programs were you missing/are you after?


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3)GPS is currently installed on my Z- however, it has a limited set of programs, and is too Gnomish for my taste.

Again, what programs are you after? - there are loads, but the names are probably unfamiliar to you.

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4)For all three I had difficulty installing programs, or getting the Z to talk to my laptop (running either Ubuntu or Suse 9.2, whichever i am in the mood for- I just change out HD's)

Regarding installing programs on OZ you need to use ipkg & ipkg-link, I can go into more detail if you post a more specific example. For connection to your laptop, try these to begin with and see how you get on:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11785
http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/usb-networking/


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C750 OZ3.5.4 (GPE, 2.6.x kernel)
SL5500 OZ3.5.4 (Opie)
Nokia 770
Serial GPS, WCF-12, Socket Ethernet & BT, Ratoc USB
WinXP, Mandriva

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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2005, 09:44:24 pm »
Thanks for the response, lardman

-I presume you mean that you installed OZ 3.5.3 with the Opie GUI to begin with.

Correct-

-What media programs?

Let's see- I have some of theKompany apps (tkcGallery, tkcPlayer) that worked great on my 5000D, but I haven't been able to get to work on either my 5600 (now bricked) or my 5500 (which  i have tried multiple GUI's and ROMS on). (I know, check with the Kompany)- I'd like to find something to play MP3's, Ogg and MPEG files.. any recommendations.

-Again, what programs are you after? - there are loads, but the names are probably unfamiliar to you.

What would I like do do? Run a DOS emulator to run some old Dos programs that I have(work related), be able to play media files (see above), utilize my home WiFi connection and sync to Evolution on my laptop (Dell Inspiron 8000 w/Suse 9.2 Pro). I'd also like to be able to run with home on a SD/MM card, to free up space for apps.

-Regarding installing programs on OZ you need to use ipkg & ipkg-link, I can go into more detail if you post a more specific example. For connection to your laptop, try these to begin with and see how you get on:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11785
http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/usb-networking/

I'll see if I can try connecting/syncing over the holiday weekend. As for ipk & ipk-link, I have tried to install progs using the package manager (using Cacko it just froze, in OPIE or GPE it doesn't work either). When I tried running from the CL it didn't seem to work either. There is probably something basic that I am missing here, but having gone through the forums and FAQs I can't figure out what it is.

Again, thanks for the response- any help would be much appreciated.

Pete

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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2005, 09:45:24 pm »
Thanks for the response, lardman

-I presume you mean that you installed OZ 3.5.3 with the Opie GUI to begin with.

Correct-

-What media programs?

Let's see- I have some of theKompany apps (tkcGallery, tkcPlayer) that worked great on my 5000D, but I haven't been able to get to work on either my 5600 (now bricked) or my 5500 (which  i have tried multiple GUI's and ROMS on). (I know, check with the Kompany)- I'd like to find something to play MP3's, Ogg and MPEG files.. any recommendations.

-Again, what programs are you after? - there are loads, but the names are probably unfamiliar to you.

What would I like do do? Run a DOS emulator to run some old Dos programs that I have(work related), be able to play media files (see above), utilize my home WiFi connection and sync to Evolution on my laptop (Dell Inspiron 8000 w/Suse 9.2 Pro). I'd also like to be able to run with home on a SD/MM card, to free up space for apps.

-Regarding installing programs on OZ you need to use ipkg & ipkg-link, I can go into more detail if you post a more specific example. For connection to your laptop, try these to begin with and see how you get on:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11785
http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/usb-networking/

I'll see if I can try connecting/syncing over the holiday weekend. As for ipk & ipk-link, I have tried to install progs using the package manager (using Cacko it just froze, in OPIE or GPE it doesn't work either). When I tried running from the CL it didn't seem to work either. There is probably something basic that I am missing here, but having gone through the forums and FAQs I can't figure out what it is.

Again, thanks for the response- any help would be much appreciated.

Pete

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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2005, 05:38:12 am »
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Let's see- I have some of theKompany apps (tkcGallery, tkcPlayer) that worked great on my 5000D, but I haven't been able to get to work on either my 5600 (now bricked) or my 5500 (which i have tried multiple GUI's and ROMS on). (I know, check with the Kompany)- I'd like to find something to play MP3's, Ogg and MPEG files.. any recommendations.

To run theKompany apps, install them as usual (see below for how to use ipkg from the command line) and also install the Sharp-compat libs and run mkcompat on them (use the Libraries icon on the setting page) to let them run on the updated system.

Playing mp3/OGGs/Videos:

Opie: opie-mediaplayer2 (no video), xmms (I think it does video), mplayer (all)
GPE: gxine (all), mplayer (all)

There may be others too.

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What would I like do do? Run a DOS emulator to run some old Dos programs that I have(work related), be able to play media files (see above), utilize my home WiFi connection and sync to Evolution on my laptop (Dell Inspiron 8000 w/Suse 9.2 Pro). I'd also like to be able to run with home on a SD/MM card, to free up space for apps.

If you can find the DOS emulator in OE then all's well and good, otherwise you'll have to install & run mkcompat as explained above on the binaries designed for the Sharp 'ROM'.

WiFi works out of the box, syncing also works so I'm told (I don't do it), have a look here:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11783
and
http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GpeSync (for GPE though)

Again there may be others, but it's not something I do.

Running with home on an SD card is also doable (not something I do though):
http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/root-on-sd/

Note that you can install any app to the SD card directly though and then use ipkg-link to create symlinks so that it works correctly. This is easier imo.

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As for ipk & ipk-link, I have tried to install progs using the package manager (using Cacko it just froze, in OPIE or GPE it doesn't work either). When I tried running from the CL it didn't seem to work either. There is probably something basic that I am missing here, but having gone through the forums and FAQs I can't figure out what it is.

Don't use the GUI tool, it has a memory leak. Use ipkg from the command line.

The basic syntax is:

ipkg install <package name>
ipkg remove <package name>

You can also specify where to install things using -d <location> so to install to SD card you'd do:

ipkg install -d sd <package name>

After installing to sd you'd run ipkg-link to create the symlinks:

ipkg-link add <package name>
or
ipkg-link mount /media/card

Hope that's of some help,


Si
C750 OZ3.5.4 (GPE, 2.6.x kernel)
SL5500 OZ3.5.4 (Opie)
Nokia 770
Serial GPS, WCF-12, Socket Ethernet & BT, Ratoc USB
WinXP, Mandriva

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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2005, 08:57:40 pm »
Thanks again, lardman..

I'm going to see if I can get things configured over the long weekend- I'll let you know how it shapes up.

Pete