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« on: November 09, 2005, 12:07:20 pm »
Hi everyone, this is my first post here. First I'd like to say you have a great forum here.

I got a Zaurus SL-5500 off eBay a couple of days ago and for the past 3 hours I have been checking out the alternatives to Sharp's 3.13 ROM (opie, gpe etc.). For my needs, the 3.13 ROM will do best.

I have installed both v3 USB & Ethernet drivers on my PC and communication between the Z and my box (XP SP2) is fine, I can transfer files and sync with no problem.Both the Z (PC Sync setting) and my PC (Zaurus Manager) are configured to use "USB TCP/IP".

However, I have a problem - I can't share my PC's internet connection with my Z. When I go to "Settings"->"Network" on the Z, and I click "New", there are only 4 options available:

Dial-Up (Modem)
Dial-Up (IrDA)
LAN - TCP/IP
Wireless LAN - TCP/IP

If I'm not mistaken, there should be a fifth option named "USB TCP/IP". I distinctly remember this option being there on ROM ver. 2.38 (the one the Z came with). Now, on the 3.13 it's gone...  

With OPIE, it's easy to configure (it shows on the network list as "usb0" or sthg similar).

Can anyone help me here? Is there another way I can configure usb0 with the Sharp 3.13 ROM? Am I doing something wrong? I searched the forums to no avail.

Thanks in advance guys!
Zaurus SL-5500 with:
128MB CF Card                                    
128MB SD Card
Symbol WiFi CF Card (working, sorta... overheats and shuts down!)
OZ 3.5.4 & GPE

Zaurus SL-C3100 with:
pdaXrom 1.1.0beta3 & XFCE4, /dev/hda1 256MB swap, /dev/hda2 512MB ext3, /dev/hda3 3328MB FAT32 for stuff
D-Link DCF-660 WiFi CF Card
1GB SD Card
128MB SD Card
128MB CF Card (for flashing)
USB Host Cable

& a Sony VAIO PCG-C1XD Picturebook with accessories...

[img]http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/7319/usbar21mw.gif\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-sig-image\" /]

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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2005, 09:15:48 pm »
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Hi everyone, this is my first post here. First I'd like to say you have a great forum here.

I got a Zaurus SL-5500 off eBay a couple of days ago and for the past 3 hours I have been checking out the alternatives to Sharp's 3.13 ROM (opie, gpe etc.). For my needs, the 3.13 ROM will do best.

I have installed both v3 USB & Ethernet drivers on my PC and communication between the Z and my box (XP SP2) is fine, I can transfer files and sync with no problem.Both the Z (PC Sync setting) and my PC (Zaurus Manager) are configured to use "USB TCP/IP".

However, I have a problem - I can't share my PC's internet connection with my Z. When I go to "Settings"->"Network" on the Z, and I click "New", there are only 4 options available:

Dial-Up (Modem)
Dial-Up (IrDA)
LAN - TCP/IP
Wireless LAN - TCP/IP

If I'm not mistaken, there should be a fifth option named "USB TCP/IP". I distinctly remember this option being there on ROM ver. 2.38 (the one the Z came with). Now, on the 3.13 it's gone...  

With OPIE, it's easy to configure (it shows on the network list as "usb0" or sthg similar).

Can anyone help me here? Is there another way I can configure usb0 with the Sharp 3.13 ROM? Am I doing something wrong? I searched the forums to no avail.

Thanks in advance guys!
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Don't think there's any way to do it. Personally, I now use a wireless CF card (the Ambicom works out of the box on the 3.13) and my own WAP.  
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2005, 12:16:20 pm »
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Hi everyone, this is my first post here. First I'd like to say you have a great forum here.

I got a Zaurus SL-5500 off eBay a couple of days ago and for the past 3 hours I have been checking out the alternatives to Sharp's 3.13 ROM (opie, gpe etc.). For my needs, the 3.13 ROM will do best.

I have installed both v3 USB & Ethernet drivers on my PC and communication between the Z and my box (XP SP2) is fine, I can transfer files and sync with no problem.Both the Z (PC Sync setting) and my PC (Zaurus Manager) are configured to use "USB TCP/IP".

However, I have a problem - I can't share my PC's internet connection with my Z. When I go to "Settings"->"Network" on the Z, and I click "New", there are only 4 options available:

Dial-Up (Modem)
Dial-Up (IrDA)
LAN - TCP/IP
Wireless LAN - TCP/IP

If I'm not mistaken, there should be a fifth option named "USB TCP/IP". I distinctly remember this option being there on ROM ver. 2.38 (the one the Z came with). Now, on the 3.13 it's gone...  

With OPIE, it's easy to configure (it shows on the network list as "usb0" or sthg similar).

Can anyone help me here? Is there another way I can configure usb0 with the Sharp 3.13 ROM? Am I doing something wrong? I searched the forums to no avail.

Thanks in advance guys!
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Don't think there's any way to do it. Personally, I now use a wireless CF card (the Ambicom works out of the box on the 3.13) and my own WAP.  
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Surely this can't be right... Why would a feature in the 2.38 ROM not existi in the newer 3.13?

Does that mean that if I plan to share my internet connection from my PC to my Z I have to flash it with Opie or GPE?
Zaurus SL-5500 with:
128MB CF Card                                    
128MB SD Card
Symbol WiFi CF Card (working, sorta... overheats and shuts down!)
OZ 3.5.4 & GPE

Zaurus SL-C3100 with:
pdaXrom 1.1.0beta3 & XFCE4, /dev/hda1 256MB swap, /dev/hda2 512MB ext3, /dev/hda3 3328MB FAT32 for stuff
D-Link DCF-660 WiFi CF Card
1GB SD Card
128MB SD Card
128MB CF Card (for flashing)
USB Host Cable

& a Sony VAIO PCG-C1XD Picturebook with accessories...

[img]http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/7319/usbar21mw.gif\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-sig-image\" /]

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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2005, 01:27:42 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2005, 04:51:17 pm »
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Is this what you want?
https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Networ...ion_for_Windows

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He does say he's got a 5500.
This guide is for one of the clamshells.
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Handheld: C860 running CACkO 1.23, with a Panasonic Class 2 1G SD card and a GXT 1G CF card; AmbiCom WL1100C-CF wifi card, and a CE-AG06 camera card.

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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2005, 10:14:59 pm »
Sharing of Internet via PC as Internet gateway

Windows IP: 192.168.129.200
Zaurus IP  : 192.168.129.201


Firstly, we need to ping each other to check the TCP/IP connection.

Next, issue the folllowing commands using SU mode:
- " route add default gw 192.168.129.200
- " route add -host 192,168.129.200 usb0d

After that, we should able to surf from Opera browser.

I hope the above will help.

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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2005, 04:42:52 pm »
Quote from: freizugheit,Nov 16 2005, 05:14 AM
Sharing of Internet via PC as Internet gateway

Windows IP: 192.168.129.200
Zaurus IP  : 192.168.129.201


Firstly, we need to ping each other to check the TCP/IP connection.

Next, issue the folllowing commands using SU mode:
- " route add default gw 192.168.129.200
- " route add -host 192,168.129.200 usb0d

After that, we should able to surf from Opera browser.

I hope the above will help.
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I tried the above, but when I try the route add host command I get "Host name lookup failure".

The Z and the PC both ping each other without problems.

Any ideas?
Zaurus SL-5500 with:
128MB CF Card                                    
128MB SD Card
Symbol WiFi CF Card (working, sorta... overheats and shuts down!)
OZ 3.5.4 & GPE

Zaurus SL-C3100 with:
pdaXrom 1.1.0beta3 & XFCE4, /dev/hda1 256MB swap, /dev/hda2 512MB ext3, /dev/hda3 3328MB FAT32 for stuff
D-Link DCF-660 WiFi CF Card
1GB SD Card
128MB SD Card
128MB CF Card (for flashing)
USB Host Cable

& a Sony VAIO PCG-C1XD Picturebook with accessories...

[img]http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/7319/usbar21mw.gif\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-sig-image\" /]

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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2005, 05:03:46 pm »
Can you ping a remote computer by using its IP address? If you can then your problem is in the DNS server and it's not Zaurus specific.

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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2005, 05:33:57 pm »
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Can you ping a remote computer by using its IP address? If you can then your problem is in the DNS server and it's not Zaurus specific.

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I can ping any computer using its IP without problems...
Zaurus SL-5500 with:
128MB CF Card                                    
128MB SD Card
Symbol WiFi CF Card (working, sorta... overheats and shuts down!)
OZ 3.5.4 & GPE

Zaurus SL-C3100 with:
pdaXrom 1.1.0beta3 & XFCE4, /dev/hda1 256MB swap, /dev/hda2 512MB ext3, /dev/hda3 3328MB FAT32 for stuff
D-Link DCF-660 WiFi CF Card
1GB SD Card
128MB SD Card
128MB CF Card (for flashing)
USB Host Cable

& a Sony VAIO PCG-C1XD Picturebook with accessories...

[img]http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/7319/usbar21mw.gif\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-sig-image\" /]

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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2005, 07:08:06 pm »
route add -host 192,168.129.200 usb0d

In the command above, it shouldn't have a comma but a dot after the 192. maybe that's the problem. Otherwise, find out the IP address of your DNS sever (on the Windows machine) , and add a line
nameserver IP_address
to /etc/resolv.conf (replacing IP_address by the actual IP address of course). But I'm just guessing and maybe somebody else can give better suggestions.

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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2005, 07:56:07 pm »
I tried both your suggestions and I still can't get it to work.

UPDATE:

I have flashed my Z with the 3.5.4 OZ rom... Thankfully now I can configure usbd0 through Network Settings.  

However I still cant get it to work. Both devices (Z & PC) respond to pings from one another.

One other thing: since OZ doesn't come with a browser (like Opera in the Sharp ROM), I searched around for Konqueror and I downloaded an ipk file. However, when I try to install it on my CF card I get dependency errors, the following are missing:

qt-embedded (>=2.3.2)
qpe base (=1.5.0)

Where can I get them? There's no feed for the 3.5.4 ROM and the 3.5.3 doesn't work for me (suspend problems).
Zaurus SL-5500 with:
128MB CF Card                                    
128MB SD Card
Symbol WiFi CF Card (working, sorta... overheats and shuts down!)
OZ 3.5.4 & GPE

Zaurus SL-C3100 with:
pdaXrom 1.1.0beta3 & XFCE4, /dev/hda1 256MB swap, /dev/hda2 512MB ext3, /dev/hda3 3328MB FAT32 for stuff
D-Link DCF-660 WiFi CF Card
1GB SD Card
128MB SD Card
128MB CF Card (for flashing)
USB Host Cable

& a Sony VAIO PCG-C1XD Picturebook with accessories...

[img]http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/7319/usbar21mw.gif\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-sig-image\" /]

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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2005, 07:34:46 am »
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qt-embedded (>=2.3.2)
qpe base (=1.5.0)

Force the depends (using --force-depends on the command line) - this is because you're trying to use an ipk which is older than the flash image.

Note that Opera also works.


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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2005, 11:20:39 am »
If I force the depends, the installation completes succesfully but when I try to start Konqueror it starts and immediately quits. Any ideas?
Zaurus SL-5500 with:
128MB CF Card                                    
128MB SD Card
Symbol WiFi CF Card (working, sorta... overheats and shuts down!)
OZ 3.5.4 & GPE

Zaurus SL-C3100 with:
pdaXrom 1.1.0beta3 & XFCE4, /dev/hda1 256MB swap, /dev/hda2 512MB ext3, /dev/hda3 3328MB FAT32 for stuff
D-Link DCF-660 WiFi CF Card
1GB SD Card
128MB SD Card
128MB CF Card (for flashing)
USB Host Cable

& a Sony VAIO PCG-C1XD Picturebook with accessories...

[img]http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/7319/usbar21mw.gif\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-sig-image\" /]

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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2005, 11:40:43 am »
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If I force the depends, the installation completes succesfully but when I try to start Konqueror it starts and immediately quits. Any ideas?
You will have to edit your /etc/ipkg.conf as shown in this thread for 3.5.4-rc feeds:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16111

Then install konqueror from the feed.

You can also find a working opera7.55 with instructions here:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15885

Greg

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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2005, 11:53:37 am »
Follow Greg2's instructions - I'd assumed you'd taken konq from the 3.5.3 feed.

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If I force the depends, the installation completes succesfully but when I try to start Konqueror it starts and immediately quits. Any ideas?

For this, and all other apps which either don't start or start then die, run them from the command line and see what the error message says.

Use 'ipkg files <packagename>' if you don't know what the binary is called, etc.


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C750 OZ3.5.4 (GPE, 2.6.x kernel)
SL5500 OZ3.5.4 (Opie)
Nokia 770
Serial GPS, WCF-12, Socket Ethernet & BT, Ratoc USB
WinXP, Mandriva