X/qt Preconfigured With Apps

[Meanie]

New question!
Do I need to use some other key map for debian? I have c3100 so as Meanie says it is included in the xqt pack... but in debian I can write on the terminal! (some chars are working but other are wrong! ex. P=backspace!!! )
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Strange, all my keys work fine. try the keymap provided on the site and if that does not work, then use xev to customise

[bolbit]

Hi meanie,
it seems that the location of the cramfs changed (http://www.thegrinder.ws/Meanies_XQT/cram/) , it is now : http://thegrinder.ws/Meanies_XQT/cram/

upd :  http://www.thegrinder.ws/Meanies_XQT/cram/ is working now ()

[DaemonsGR]

Can be found here : http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/mirror/jumbo/images/

varoudis@jefferson [~/public_html/zaurus/menaie/mirror/jumbo/images]# ls -la
total 499348
drwxr-xr-x    2 varoudis varoudis     4096 Mar 18 23:12 ./
drwxr-xr-x    5 varoudis varoudis     4096 Mar 18 03:20 ../
-rw-r--r--    1 varoudis varoudis 23714687 Mar 18 02:08 java.cramfs.zip
-rw-r--r--    1 varoudis varoudis 21101074 Mar 18 10:31 java.squashfs.zip
-rw-r--r--    1 varoudis varoudis 21679371 Mar 18 11:29 java.tgz
-rw-r--r--    1 varoudis varoudis 50378227 Mar 18 03:51 xqt-apps.cramfs.zip
-rw-r--r--    1 varoudis varoudis 44021173 Mar 18 13:31 xqt-apps.squashfs.zip
-rw-r--r--    1 varoudis varoudis 40791677 Mar 18 15:12 xqt-apps.tgz
-rw-r--r--    1 varoudis varoudis     1127 Mar 18 03:51 xqt-cleanup.zip
-rw-r--r--    1 varoudis varoudis 18653657 Mar 18 16:00 xqt-gtk-jumbo.cramfs.zip
-rw-r--r--    1 varoudis varoudis 16936474 Mar 18 16:35 xqt-gtk-jumbo.squashfs.zip
-rw-r--r--    1 varoudis varoudis 17095285 Mar 18 16:59 xqt-gtk-jumbo.tgz
-rw-r--r--    1 varoudis varoudis     1917 Mar 18 09:37 xqt-install.sh.zip
-rw-r--r--    1 varoudis varoudis 23749823 Mar 18 05:14 xqt-mozilla.cramfs.zip
-rw-r--r--    1 varoudis varoudis 20063296 Mar 18 17:27 xqt-mozilla.squashfs.zip
-rw-r--r--    1 varoudis varoudis 20147041 Mar 18 18:08 xqt-mozilla.tgz
-rw-r--r--    1 varoudis varoudis 103252523 Mar 18 09:33 xqt-openoffice.cramfs.zip
-rw-r--r--    1 varoudis varoudis 89119794 Mar 18 23:12 xqt-openoffice.squashfs.zip

[PaulBx1]

I hate it when I have so many choices.    I wouldn't mind getting a little guidance what to do.

I currently have a C1000 with Cacko 1.23 and a 256MB SD card, currently with 111MB available (more with a cleanup). When I installed Cacko I had it repartitioned, IIRC so that Cacko was in 32MB and the other 96MB was open; currently 85MB is still available there. My system info also shows 10MB of "Temporary Storage", anybody know what that is? <later>Oops, I found that note on one of Meanie's pages, about the tmpfs during boot.

I understand there are two forms of X/Qt, one a cramfs (size?) and the other a regular ipk 40MB in size. I understand the ipk can go in my 96MB internal flash partition, or the SD (or CF if I had one) with an additional linking step using "xipk-link". And the cramfs can go anywhere.

I'm guessing it makes sense to load the ipk into the internal flash; I have read the performance starting up some of these big packages is not so great, so leaving out the decompression step and the slow SD access should help, right?

My highest priority is a good spreadsheet (better than Hancom Sheet). I would probably first try gnumeric, if it can import and export .xls files. Can I fit that also in the internal flash? Or should it go on the SD? Performance tradeoffs? If it doesn't work out for my application, the next step would be openoffice. Am I going to have trouble fitting openoffice into my current hardware?

Next priority would be Firefox and Thunderbird. Same sorts of questions.

I'm not necessarily looking for a detailed map of what's best for my C1000, but just some general guidelines for choosing one configuration over another.

Finally I remember reading somewhere I need 512MB of space on the SD, I don't see why because X/Qt is only 40MB, right? And even smaller as a cramfs? I want to know if I need to buy another SD to get what I want. <later>Oops, again I noticed that this refers to the space needed if OpenOffice is installed.

[cmonex]

I'm guessing it makes sense to load the ipk into the internal flash; I have read the performance starting up some of these big packages is not so great, so leaving out the decompression step and the slow SD access should help, right?

yay i'd like to know that myself. using the cramfs from SD now and its slow to start up that's for sure..

[ArchiMark]

Related to the last few posts, could Meanie or others comment on the pros and cons of using the various forms of Meanie's XQT-Jumbo packages:

1) non-cramfs

2) cramfs

3) squashfs

Not sure which one would be good for me to use on my C3100, now that I've restored my Z back to original state....  

Also, besides the internal 4GB microdrive, I have a 1GB SD card that I usually leave in my 3100...I try to avoid depending on use of CF storage card so that I can always use my WiFi or Ethernet card....

Besides X/Qt, I'll probably install Debian too, so that's a consideration as well....

Appreciate all input!

Thanks,

Mark

[qx773]

I found that having an uncompressed image of the XQT Jumbo package on my SD card made the software run slower, probably due to the slow access time of the SD card.

[Meanie]

X/Qt jumbo is now deprecated and not being updated anymore. Instead there is now X/Qt super jumbo aka pdaXqtrom. This new package is installed just like the jumbo cramfs images. The pdaXqtrom-base image replaces the xqt-gtk-jumbo image. The squashfs images have been uploaded, the cramfs images will follow shortly.
http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/mirror/jum....html#pdaxqtrom
Note: not all items on the menu are installed yet, but they will be in the next release. This release is for general testing to iron out bugs and see how well it works on other models apart from the C3x00 series. Check out the keyboard mappings and send me your fixes in case some keys are wrong since I am unable to test the keyboard mappings on other models except the ones I have. The SL-6000 should also work fine. Let me know about the window sizings.

[xamindar]

X/Qt jumbo is now deprecated and not being updated anymore. Instead there is now X/Qt super jumbo aka pdaXqtrom. This new package is installed just like the jumbo cramfs images. The pdaXqt-base image replaces the xqt-gtk-jumbo image. The squashfs images have been uploaded, the cramfs images will follow shortly.
http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/mirror/jum....html#pdaxqtrom
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OH MY GOSH I LOVE YOU!

[ArchiMark]

Hi Meanie,

Want to try out your new pdaXqtrom...but don't want to mess things up...  

So since I already have X/Qt/Debian installed using your cramfs images on my /hdd3, what should I do before installing??

Should I uninstall X/Qt first? and Debian too??

If so, what's best way to uninstall??

Thanks,

Mark

X/Qt jumbo is now deprecated and not being updated anymore. Instead there is now X/Qt super jumbo aka pdaXqtrom. This new package is installed just like the jumbo cramfs images. The pdaXqtrom-base image replaces the xqt-gtk-jumbo image. The squashfs images have been uploaded, the cramfs images will follow shortly.
http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/mirror/jum....html#pdaxqtrom
Note: not all items on the menu are installed yet, but they will be in the next release. This release is for general testing to iron out bugs and see how well it works on other models apart from the C3x00 series. Check out the keyboard mappings and send me your fixes in case some keys are wrong since I am unable to test the keyboard mappings on other models except the ones I have. The SL-6000 should also work fine. Let me know about the window sizings.
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[Meanie]

Hi Meanie,

Want to try out your new pdaXqtrom...but don't want to mess things up...   

So since I already have X/Qt/Debian installed using your cramfs images on my /hdd3, what should I do before installing??

Should I uninstall X/Qt first? and Debian too??

If so, what's best way to uninstall??

Thanks,

Mark

X/Qt jumbo is now deprecated and not being updated anymore. Instead there is now X/Qt super jumbo aka pdaXqtrom. This new package is installed just like the jumbo cramfs images. The pdaXqtrom-base image replaces the xqt-gtk-jumbo image. The squashfs images have been uploaded, the cramfs images will follow shortly.
http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/mirror/jum....html#pdaxqtrom
Note: not all items on the menu are installed yet, but they will be in the next release. This release is for general testing to iron out bugs and see how well it works on other models apart from the C3x00 series. Check out the keyboard mappings and send me your fixes in case some keys are wrong since I am unable to test the keyboard mappings on other models except the ones I have. The SL-6000 should also work fine. Let me know about the window sizings.
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you should have a xqt-gtk-jumbo item in your uninstall list. just uninstall it and then install pdaXqtrom, or if you have the cramfs version of xqt-gtk-jumbo installed, then you can also just install pdaXqtrom and it will just overrride xqt-gtk-jumbo links. you can easily switch between pdaXqtrom and xqt-gtk-jumbo by just re-running their setup scripts. if yo installed the ipk, then you should uninstall it. pocketworkstation is currently being ignored by the pdaXqtrom.  well, it calls debrunner to launch pocketworkstation, but debrunner doesn't exist yet  i will add that later...

[freebird]

X/Qt jumbo is now deprecated and not being updated anymore. Instead there is now X/Qt super jumbo aka pdaXqtrom. This new package is installed just like the jumbo cramfs images. The pdaXqtrom-base image replaces the xqt-gtk-jumbo image. The squashfs images have been uploaded, the cramfs images will follow shortly.
http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/mirror/jum....html#pdaxqtrom
Note: not all items on the menu are installed yet, but they will be in the next release. This release is for general testing to iron out bugs and see how well it works on other models apart from the C3x00 series. Check out the keyboard mappings and send me your fixes in case some keys are wrong since I am unable to test the keyboard mappings on other models except the ones I have. The SL-6000 should also work fine. Let me know about the window sizings.
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Hi all

MEANIE WHAT TO SAY?    YOU ARE THE BEST!!!

It is amazing what you did ! a great work !
I have just installed your PDAXQTROM and it's feeds on my C860, and the first good surprise for me is GTK2 THEME SWITCHER, even on pdaxrom i didn't have this pleasure GNUMERIC GIMP GQVIEW all with big bold fonts menu, it was like a gift for me, thanks guy  
first results of my testing all seems to work fine , only ABIWORD doesn't work it hungs immediately after a small white square
the keymapping have not yet tested
i will post more informations after testing keymapping and each application

cheers
freebird

[xamindar]

bummer.  it appears that the new cramfs jumbo package has messed up my wget.  I hope it hasn't messed up anything else.

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$ wget http://radnimax.com/misc/screenshot1.jpg
--01:42:06--  http://radnimax.com/misc/screenshot1.jpg
           => `screenshot1.jpg'
Resolving radnimax.com... 24.4.222.188
wget: error while loading shared libraries: wget: undefined symbol: __umodsi3
$        
Wget is required by shoutcast player and now it can't get any playlists.

Anyone know a fix for this?

[Meanie]

bummer.  it appears that the new cramfs jumbo package has messed up my wget.  I hope it hasn't messed up anything else.

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$ wget http://radnimax.com/misc/screenshot1.jpg
--01:42:06--  http://radnimax.com/misc/screenshot1.jpg
           => `screenshot1.jpg'
Resolving radnimax.com... 24.4.222.188
wget: error while loading shared libraries: wget: undefined symbol: __umodsi3
$        
Wget is required by shoutcast player and now it can't get any playlists.

Anyone know a fix for this?
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hm.. what version of wget are you using? maybe try a newer version.
try this link [a href=\"http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/feed/]http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/feed/[/url]

[freebird]

Hi MEANIE
here are some reports after testing on my c860

gqview and xpdf sizing is ok

but abiword and stardict doesn't work
here is what i get when trying to launch abiword

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$xlauncher abiword
launching abiword - please wait a moment...
(process:405): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
(abiword:405): Gtk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library.
             Using the fallback 'C' locale.
(abiword:405):GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: image type 'xpm' is not supported
(abiword:405):Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_new_from_pixbuf: assertion 'pixbuf !=NULL' failed
(abiword:405):Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_factory_add: assertion 'icon_set != NULL' failed
(abiword:405):Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_unref: assertion 'icon_set != NULL' failedand here is what i get when trying to launch stardict

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$xlauncher stardict
launching stardict - please wait a moment...
(sardict:428): Gtk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
             Using the fallback 'C' locale.

(sardict:428): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

(gnome_segv:431):Gtk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
             Using the fallback 'C' locale.
(gnome_segv:431):Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library then a message box is opened with this text THE APPLICATION "stardict" has quit unexpectedly.
choose restart application or close


cheers
freebird