Author Topic: X/qt Preconfigured With Apps (Read 102784 times)

Meanie · « **Reply #90 on:** May 14, 2006, 12:38:33 pm »

It's ready for testing. I uploaded the cramfs version first this time. The squashfs version will be available shortly once it has finished uploading...

http://www.thegrinder.ws/Meanies_XQT/pdaxq.../pdaxqtrom.html

For those who only want English create a file called monolingual under /etc/X11 so it will load faster

xamindar · « **Reply #91 on:** May 14, 2006, 02:57:41 pm »

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It's ready for testing. I uploaded the cramfs version first this time. The squashfs version will be available shortly once it has finished uploading...

http://www.thegrinder.ws/Meanies_XQT/pdaxq.../pdaxqtrom.html

For those who only want English create a file called monolingual under /etc/X11 so it will load faster
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You are amazing meanie. I'm curious, what is the difference between squashfs of cramfs? Is one smaller and slower than the other?

freebird · « **Reply #92 on:** May 14, 2006, 03:30:32 pm »

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It's ready for testing. I uploaded the cramfs version first this time. The squashfs version will be available shortly once it has finished uploading...

http://www.thegrinder.ws/Meanies_XQT/pdaxq.../pdaxqtrom.html

For those who only want English create a file called monolingual under /etc/X11 so it will load faster
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You are amazing meanie. I'm curious, what is the difference between squashfs of cramfs? Is one smaller and slower than the other?
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Hello xamindar

here is the answer to you question
[a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19084&view=findpost&p=125662]https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=125662[/url]

cheers
freebird

xamindar · « **Reply #93 on:** May 14, 2006, 03:44:21 pm »

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Hello xamindar

here is the answer to you question
https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=125662

cheers
freebird
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Thanks freebird, I guess I should have searched before posting.

xamindar · « **Reply #94 on:** May 14, 2006, 04:57:24 pm »

I get an error when I try to run gaim. I haven't tried any other apps yet, I'll edit this post if the other apps have the same problem. Error is as follows:

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bash-3.00$ gaim
Gaim has segfaulted and attempted to dump a core file.
This is a bug in the software and has happened through
no fault of your own.

It is possible that this bug is already fixed in CVS.
If you can reproduce the crash, please notify the gaim
maintainers by reporting a bug at
http://gaim.sourceforge.net/bug.php

Please make sure to specify what you were doing at the time,
and post the backtrace from the core file. If you do not know
how to get the backtrace, please get instructions at
http://gaim.sourceforge.net/gdb.php. If you need further
assistance, please IM either SeanEgn or LSchiere and
they can help you.
Aborted
bash-3.00$

Also, I get two messages when I open up a normal terminal:

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sourcing compiler environment at /mnt/zgcc
sourcing compiler environment at /mnt/zgcc

Shouldn't there only be one? What do I edit to fix that?

EDIT: ok, so far other programs are working just fine. I didn't find a core dump anywhere. If there is anything else I can provide please let me know.

freebird · « **Reply #95 on:** May 14, 2006, 06:59:47 pm »

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It's ready for testing. I uploaded the cramfs version first this time. The squashfs version will be available shortly once it has finished uploading...

http://www.thegrinder.ws/Meanies_XQT/pdaxq.../pdaxqtrom.html

For those who only want English create a file called monolingual under /etc/X11 so it will load faster
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Hello Meanie
Well have tested the new cramfs release
after installing the following apps was not working gimp,gnumeric,sctie,abiword,xarchiver...
but all had the same warning something like error while loading shared libraries /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0

so i have typed the following, to see what will happen

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su
ln -sf /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0 /usr/lib/gtk-2.0
gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders

with the second command line i had some warning but do not remember what it was

anyway after that have launched those applications all are working now

but things go slow even after creating monolingual file

btw: what do you mean by swap file of 64M minimum is required, as i am runing pdaxtrom (uncompressed) from 1g cf ext2 formatted ?

Cresho · « **Reply #96 on:** May 14, 2006, 09:57:27 pm »

is there an automounter update? so far, automounter-c3000_0.4.7_arm.zip

Cresho · « **Reply #97 on:** May 14, 2006, 10:11:33 pm »

man this is so sweeeeeett!!!!!!!!!!

I cannot believe the amount of programs you put into this thing. This is amazing. Now I can throw away my pc!

For newbies, you if you have problems like i did with the qt tabs icons, just startx icon and then when its fully loaded, use fn+ stylus on screen and you can highlight x applications and launch em through there. also, if you want to go full screen, hit menu on the keyboard and click on fullscreen.

meanie...I am speechless. ohh god i can't put this thing down...too cool!

flyguy · « **Reply #98 on:** May 14, 2006, 10:21:05 pm »

Hey,

I did the following:

1. Installed Cacko 1.23 on a C-1000.
2. Formatted the SD card with mkfs.msdos /dev/mmcda1. Made a 128 mb swap file on the card.
3. Copied the base, apps, and install script to the SD card through a USB connection w/ the zaurus
4. Ran the said install script, they both installed to root of the SD card
5. Ran the ln fs and gdk-pixbuf command from previous reply.
6. Ran my first X program w/ "xlauncher gaim"
7. Ran other programs through the menu and through "xlauncher [prgm name]"

Things that didn't work:
GAIM (segfault error)

Things that worked super-slowly:
Gimp
Free42
FireFox
Dillo

That's all I've tested. I don't have a graphical menu for X/QT - only a menu option in the main bottom left menu. I'm going to try restarting my z and seeing what happens.

Louis

Meanie · « **Reply #99 on:** May 14, 2006, 10:24:37 pm »

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I get an error when I try to run gaim. I haven't tried any other apps yet, I'll edit this post if the other apps have the same problem. Error is as follows:
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bash-3.00$ gaim Gaim has segfaulted and attempted to dump a core file. This is a bug in the software and has happened through no fault of your own. It is possible that this bug is already fixed in CVS. If you can reproduce the crash, please notify the gaim maintainers by reporting a bug at http://gaim.sourceforge.net/bug.php Please make sure to specify what you were doing at the time, and post the backtrace from the core file. If you do not know how to get the backtrace, please get instructions at http://gaim.sourceforge.net/gdb.php. If you need further assistance, please IM either SeanEgn or LSchiere and they can help you. Aborted bash-3.00$
Also, I get two messages when I open up a normal terminal:
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sourcing compiler environment at /mnt/zgcc sourcing compiler environment at /mnt/zgcc
Shouldn't there only be one? What do I edit to fix that?

EDIT: ok, so far other programs are working just fine. I didn't find a core dump anywhere. If there is anything else I can provide please let me know.
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try in /home/zaurus/.profile

not sure how you got duplicate ones, but just remove one and you should be fine. but even then, it does not hurt since it is just setting up the environment variables twice

well, if gaim is the only problem, then that's quite positive. i was planning to compile gaim 2.0 anyway later on, so I am not going to worry about 1.5 not working but replace it with 2.0 instead.

flyguy · « **Reply #100 on:** May 14, 2006, 10:36:41 pm »

I restarted my Z. Now I need to remount the cramfs images. How do I do that? I know I do it with automounter, but I'm not sure what the protocol is. Can someone give step by step instructions or link to them?

Thanks,

Louis

Meanie · « **Reply #101 on:** May 14, 2006, 11:58:25 pm »

well, so far, there seems to be problems with gaim and gimp for some people while it works for others.

a swapfile is really needed for better speed. also, it seems that running off SD card is slower than running off CF/internal MicroDrive. also note that this is never going to be as fast as pdaXrom, so if you want speed, go use pdaXrom instead. this package is intended to allow you to run apps available in pdaXrom while retaining Sharp/Cacko ROM.

the very first load of X/Qt is very slow, but with a swapfile, subsequent launches are much faster.

by default, the scim subsystem is loaded when X/Qt is loaded. scim allows you to input other languages such a Chinese and Japanese. if the file monolingual exists, then scim won't be loaded and X/Qt will load faster.

also, the icons on the X/Q tab launch the apps in rootless/embedded mode by default. This feature is experimental and might not always work. but if it works, then the app is launched in a shrink down version of X/Qt on the qtopia desktop. I have limited the number of apps launched in this way to 2. to turn off this feature and make those icons behave as before and just launch the apps into the full X/Qt environment, remove the file /etc/X11/app-defaults/Xembed

the installer will not remove /home/zaurus/.fluxbox so if you had pdaXrom installed previously, the old settings will remain untouched. to get the latest menus and keymappings, remove this directory before installing pdaXqtrom, ie rm -r /home/zaurus/.fluxbox

manually mounting the cramfs files is done as follows:

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su
mount /mnt/card/pdaXqtrom-base.cramfs
mount /mnt/card/pdaXqtrom-apps.cramfs
ldconfig

If you see that you may have an older automounter installed but you have 0.4.7 installed, just ignore it. seems like it says that on Cacko ROM.

with Cacko, there is a memory applet on the Qt taskbar. use it to create a swapfile and make sure to enable the swapfile when using X/Qt. For Sharp ROM users, you can install the memory applet or just do it manually from the console.

flyguy · « **Reply #102 on:** May 15, 2006, 12:24:34 am »

i get an error:

Can't find /mnt/card/pdaXqtrom-base.cramfs in /etc/fstab

Louis

Cresho · « **Reply #103 on:** May 15, 2006, 12:48:00 am »

The axyftp works but i do encounter a problem when looking through 200 folders. When I try and highlight one, it shoots/scrolls down to the bottom. Is there a work around for this? So far, i use the directorynavigation display to type in the locations on where I want to go. I can browse the directories but i can't highlight with stylus.

flyguy · « **Reply #104 on:** May 15, 2006, 01:50:12 am »

2 minutes 30 seconds to start FireFox after X/QT has loaded on a C-1000 running cramfs from SD w/ 64 mb swap. What are other peoples launch times?

~1 minute to load http://www.cnn.com/

1 minute 20 seconds to load X/QT from hitting the StartX button.

Is there a QT version of Links or can the X version be included in this package?

I am happy to report that the C-3000 automounter is working beautifully on my C-1000. After install I just had to eject/re-insert the SD card. After rebooting it did the mounting that I could not do manually. Yay!

Slowness aside, this is really really cool. Thanks Meanie!! It has been relatively painless in comparison to other Zaurus things...

Louis

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