X/qt Preconfigured With Apps

[xamindar]

well, so far, there seems to be problems with gaim and gimp for some people while it works for others.

While gaim doesn't work for me the gimp will spit out all kinds of errors in the console but it will still load.

[Cresho]

Gimp has a font issue.  Gaim needs ssl

[stbrock]

2 minutes 30 seconds to start FireFox after X/QT has loaded on a C-1000 running cramfs from SD w/ 64 mb swap.  What are other peoples launch times?

~1 minute to load http://www.cnn.com/

1 minute 20 seconds to load X/QT from hitting the StartX button.

First impression is this is magnificent. Slowness is the main issue for me.

Running from mounted cramfs on a CF card with 64mb swap and monolingual set, Firefox started to a blank screen in a minute and 30 seconds. X/Qt ranged from 45 seconds to one and a half minutes. On the other hand, dillo launched in 30 seconds. My CNN.com results with Firefox were similar, but dillo could load Slashdot and LWN in a few seconds. So who needs CNN anyway?  

I can adjust to long startups, but Firefox was fairly sluggish even after it was loaded. Most other apps seemed okay once they were loaded. If the apps are stable through multiple suspensions, the load time won't matter that much. After giving this a little time to get solid, I am hoping that expanding it and running uncompressed will give a reasonable speed boost.

[freebird]

Hello Meanie

a swapfile is really needed for better speed. also, it seems that running off SD card is slower than running off CF/internal MicroDrive. also note that this is never going to be as fast as pdaXrom, so if you want speed, go use pdaXrom instead.

while waiting this new release of pdaXqtrom, i flashed my zaurus with pdaxrom,
to test your gtk2 hacked file it seems it is a corrupted file cause i get crc error  

with Cacko, there is a memory applet on the Qt taskbar. use it to create a swapfile and make sure to enable the swapfile when using X/Qt. For Sharp ROM users, you can install the memory applet or just do it manually from the console.

But how to enable swapfile when using X/Qt ??
EDIT: ok i found the following in your website

enabling Swap

The following demonstrates how to configure a 128MB swap file on the C3000's harddisk. Normally a swap file is not required unless you are running many X/Qt applications and doing onboard development. Most users with X/Qt will probably only require 32MB - 64MB swapfile.

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# su
# dd if=/dev/zero of=/hdd3/swapfile bs=1048576 count=128
# mkswap /hdd3/swapfile
# swapon /hdd3/swapfile
# echo "/hdd3/swapfile swap defaults 0 0" >> /etc/fstabTo enable swap:

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# su
# swapon /hdd3/swapfileTo disable swap:

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# su
# swapoff /hdd3/swapfile
To check swap status:

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# cat /proc/swaps
As i am using c860 should i only replace /hdd3/swapfile with /home/swapfile (with /mnt/cf/swapfile for CF) ??

and to enable swapfile on xqt should i type the command line from xqt terminal ??

thanks  
freebird

[Meanie]

it does not matter how or where you enble swap from as long as you do it. xqt is just one huge app from the OS point of view , ie Sharp/Cacko ROM.

Firefox is the biggest and slowest app. It's slow even on pdaXrom because it loads so many little files and needs lots of memory. you can speed it up by disabling some of the features like automatically checking for updates, etc.. which it does on startup. also, specifying a location for tmp files and increasing the cache will also help. just use dillo as a lightweight and fast browser.

btw, I updated the cramfs images. it is version 0.7.8 now

fixed gimp a bit, ie no more error messages, and the installer should warn you if you have a conflicting version of freetype installed.
upgraded gaim to the latest 2.0 beta3. fixed ssl support also.
fixed link for /usr/lib/gtk-2.0 to be done automatically in the setup script

[freebird]

it does not matter how or where you enble swap from as long as you do it. xqt is just one huge app from the OS point of view , ie Sharp/Cacko ROM.

Firefox is the biggest and slowest app. It's slow even on pdaXrom because it loads so many little files and needs lots of memory. you can speed it up by disabling some of the features like automatically checking for updates, etc.. which it does on startup. also, specifying a location for tmp files and increasing the cache will also help. just use dillo as a lightweight and fast browser.

btw, I updated the cramfs images. it is version 0.7.8 now

fixed gimp a bit, ie no more error messages, and the installer should warn you if you have a conflicting version of freetype installed.
upgraded gaim to the latest 2.0 beta3. fixed ssl support also.
fixed link for /usr/lib/gtk-2.0 to be done automatically in the setup script
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Well  
have downloaded qtopia-memoryapplet_1.0.3_arm.ipk
from the GUI created a .swapfile of 128M on my CF
then enabled it as follow

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su
swapon /mnt/cf/.swapfileseems could be done from the GUI too

Now things are going much better
i am using in the same time rox, firefox, gimp and abiword and switching bettween them
No memory warnings now such as "system is becoming slow please close some apps"
and i think also that is is not slower than pdaxrom
as i have already tested firefox on pdaxrom
and i think that it is enought smooth for working

thanks MEANIE  

btw: ROX seems having some problems with windows maximazing i will test more later

[xamindar]

hmm, gaim still segfaults in the new one.

[freebird]

btw, I updated the cramfs images. it is version 0.7.8 now

fixed gimp a bit, ie no more error messages, and the installer should warn you if you have a conflicting version of freetype installed.
upgraded gaim to the latest 2.0 beta3. fixed ssl support also.
fixed link for /usr/lib/gtk-2.0 to be done automatically in the setup script
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Hi all  
Have just installed the new cramfs on my CF (so pdaXqtrom-install.sh not used)

then launched abiword here are the terminal inputs and outputs

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#xlauncher abiword

launching abiword please wait a moment....
abiword:error while loading shared libraries: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so: undefined symbol: png_create_read_struct_2then

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#su
#ln -sf /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0 /usr/lib/gtk-2.0
#gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders

g_module_open() failed for /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so: undefined symbol: png_create_read_struct_2and finaly

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#xlauncher abiwordand abiword works

but planner doesn't work
here are the warninigs i had

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#xlauncher planner
(planner:2269): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading icon from file '/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-planner.png':
Couldn't recognize the image file format for file  '/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-planner.png'
(planner:2269): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_new_from_pixbuf: assertion 'pixbuf !=NULL ' failed
dia works but starts totaly minimized
rox works but
1-the window doesn't keep the same size it changes in each refresh depending on the quantity of files on the directory
2-the icones such as eye and folders are not displayed but a

[xamindar]

hey freebird, can you test gaim?  I am trying to figure out if it is a problem with my Zaurus.  I haven't flashed it in a long time and I have done a lot to it so I'm curious.  Mine might be dure for a reflash.

[Meanie]

btw, I updated the cramfs images. it is version 0.7.8 now

fixed gimp a bit, ie no more error messages, and the installer should warn you if you have a conflicting version of freetype installed.
upgraded gaim to the latest 2.0 beta3. fixed ssl support also.
fixed link for /usr/lib/gtk-2.0 to be done automatically in the setup script
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Hi all  
Have just installed the new cramfs on my CF (so pdaXqtrom-install.sh not used)

then launched abiword here are the terminal inputs and outputs

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#xlauncher abiword

launching abiword please wait a moment....
abiword:error while loading shared libraries: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so: undefined symbol: png_create_read_struct_2then

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#su
#ln -sf /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0 /usr/lib/gtk-2.0
#gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders

g_module_open() failed for /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so: undefined symbol: png_create_read_struct_2and finaly

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#xlauncher abiwordand abiword works

but planner doesn't work
here are the warninigs i had

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#xlauncher planner
(planner:2269): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading icon from file '/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-planner.png':
Couldn't recognize the image file format for file  '/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-planner.png'
(planner:2269): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_new_from_pixbuf: assertion 'pixbuf !=NULL ' failed
dia works but starts totaly minimized
rox works but
1-the window doesn't keep the same size it changes in each refresh depending on the quantity of files on the directory
2-the icones such as eye and folders are not displayed but a
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??
why didnt you use the install/setup scripts?
all you problems is because you didnt run the setup scripts
installing to SD and CF is exactly the same (except for speed of those devices). what are  you trying to accomplish?


xamindar: i could reproduce the crash with gaim 1.5, but with gaim 2.0 it works fine on my machine. does it work for other people? did you reinstall or just replace the images?
you can replace the images and not run the install script but you have to run each of the setup script from the mounted images

[freebird]

btw, I updated the cramfs images. it is version 0.7.8 now

fixed gimp a bit, ie no more error messages, and the installer should warn you if you have a conflicting version of freetype installed.
upgraded gaim to the latest 2.0 beta3. fixed ssl support also.
fixed link for /usr/lib/gtk-2.0 to be done automatically in the setup script
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=127196\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Hi all  
Have just installed the new cramfs on my CF (so pdaXqtrom-install.sh not used)

then launched abiword here are the terminal inputs and outputs

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#xlauncher abiword

launching abiword please wait a moment....
abiword:error while loading shared libraries: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so: undefined symbol: png_create_read_struct_2then

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#su
#ln -sf /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0 /usr/lib/gtk-2.0
#gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders

g_module_open() failed for /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so: undefined symbol: png_create_read_struct_2and finaly

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#xlauncher abiwordand abiword works

but planner doesn't work
here are the warninigs i had

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#xlauncher planner
(planner:2269): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading icon from file '/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-planner.png':
Couldn't recognize the image file format for file  '/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-planner.png'
(planner:2269): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_new_from_pixbuf: assertion 'pixbuf !=NULL ' failed
dia works but starts totaly minimized
rox works but
1-the window doesn't keep the same size it changes in each refresh depending on the quantity of files on the directory
2-the icones such as eye and folders are not displayed but a
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=127322\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

??
why didnt you use the install/setup scripts?
all you problems is because you didnt run the setup scripts
installing to SD and CF is exactly the same (except for speed of those devices). what are  you trying to accomplish?


xamindar: i could reproduce the crash with gaim 1.5, but with gaim 2.0 it works fine on my machine. does it work for other people? did you reinstall or just replace the images?
you can replace the images and not run the install script but you have to run each of the setup script from the mounted images
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Meanie
have not run pdaxqtrom-install.sh but have run the two scripts from the mounted images pdaXqtrom-base.sh and pdaXqtApps.sh
mean  i proceed as follow

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#mkdir /mnt/cf/pdaXqtrom-base
#mount -o loop pdaXqtrom-base.cramfs /mnt
#cp -R /mnt/* /usr/mnt.rom/cf/pdaXqtrom-base
#umount /mnt
# cd /mnt/cf/pdaXqtrom-base
#./pdaXqtrom-base-setupi do same for the pdaXqtrom-apps

Xamindar
i will test and let you knew
cheers
freebird

[Meanie]

if you do that then the CF card has to be ext2 or ext3 and you need to use cp -a, not cp -R

[xamindar]

xamindar: i could reproduce the crash with gaim 1.5, but with gaim 2.0 it works fine on my machine. does it work for other people? did you reinstall or just replace the images?
you can replace the images and not run the install script but you have to run each of the setup script from the mounted images
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I removed the old ones from the package manager and then edited fstab and removed the entries in there.  Then rebooted.  Then I installed the new ones with the install script and rebooted.  

hmm, I'll fiddle around with it a little more.  Figures the only app I want doesn't work.    I have tested gimp, dillo, firefox and they all work great!

[freebird]

if you do that then the CF card has to be ext2 or ext3 and you need to use cp -a, not cp -R
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Yes  
my CF is ext2, but have always used cp -R should i reinstall with cp -a  

have also created a swapfile of 128M on my cf

and finaly have installed openoffice cramfs from xqtcramfs and it works great with pdaXqtrom

but noticed that openoffice displays text documents faster than abiword specially when scrolling !!!

[xamindar]

abiword gives me

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abiword

(abiword:4673): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported

(abiword:4673): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_new_from_pixbuf: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(abiword:4673): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_factory_add: assertion `icon_set != NULL' failed

(abiword:4673): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_unref: assertion `icon_set != NULL' failed
Aborted
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