Status Of 2.6 For Akita (sl-c1000) In Oz/gpe

[JohnX]

Alright!   I got 2.6.14+2.6.15-rc7 20060109 installed with a matching GPE image that I built.  Like obergix I had to modprobe hostap-cs manually.  I'll look into the cause of that later.  Right now I'm taking the time to build every program I want out of the OE tree so that I don't contaminate this install with random versions from different feeds.  

Random question: Does anyone know off the top of their head how to generate the "Packages" file for a feed.  I'd like to just have a feed mounted through samba or nfs, but the "Packages" in my tmp/deploy/ipk only contains info about the packages in gpe-image.  
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Alright, off to start digging through this stuff, but so far this release feels really "snappy" (for lack of a better word) compared to the old 2.4 stuff.  Great going OE/OZ/GPE devs!

EDIT: OK. I ran into trouble with the alsa drivers.  They throw an oops when loaded.  The system keeps going fine after that, unless I try to play sound. When I try to play a sound file with madplay or aplay that program locks, but the system stays running.  Once I find the right bug tracker I'll post the details to it.

-John

[lardman]

bugs.openembedded.org

[JohnX]

Thanks.  It's bug 584.

Oh, and unlike previous releases, SD continues to work after a suspend.  So that at least is fixed.  Is there anything specific I should be testing for, besides just giving it a general thrashing?

[lardman]

Have a talk with RP (rpurdie) on irc (#oe, #openzaurus) he'll point you in the right direction.

Si

[JohnX]

Do you have a general idea of when he (and other people) are on IRC? I've been on #oe, #openzaurus, and #gpe since I got back from classes today, 5:30PM PST but it seems like everyone is idle...

EDIT:Nevermind, I got a hold of him.  Only had to stay up til 1AM...  

[danboid]

Great news about 2.6 starting to shape up on the CXX00 models! How complete is 2.6 on these devices now? Can you mount the Z microdrive as a removeable USB disk under 2.6/GPE/Opie on the C3000 and C3100? Does sound in/out work fine under ALSA? Can I run mplayer with bvdd and iwmmx support? Are the touch screen, keyboard and power management OK yet?

Thanks! Can't wait to get 2.6 running on my Z!

dan

[JohnX]

Ok, here's the current status from a user's point of view.  The versions I'm running are a) a week or more old and  not the 3.5.4 release but the result of building an image from the "unstable" OE data.

-ALSA sound works fine in the kernel I'm running, at least for playing sound.  I have no idea if "mic in" works.  I had to apply a patch by hand (only concerns C1000) but I'm pretty sure it got into OE by now.

-Suspend works great.  My C1000 suspends and resumes very quickly, and once it's resumed there isn't any pause before the UI becomes responsive (GPE at least, haven't tried OPIE recently).  Sound continues to play through a resume.   Timeout before suspending works fine.

-I have no idea at all about using the Z as a USB device connected to a USB host.  I don't even know where my cable is.  

-The bvdd kernel driver is not in 2.6.  I have no idea if it will be there eventually, or if it might be replaced with a real accelerated framebuffer.  AFAICT the Xserver that OZ/GPE uses does not support 320x240 mode so mplayer is pretty much a lost cause for the time being.

-touch screen works fine.

-keyboard works fine and has a nice keymapping by default.  Delay before auto-repeat is a little quick to start with but can be changed by "kbd_mode -d 500" by root.

-Some fixes have showed up in GPE recently that deal with making it act right at 200dpi, which makes fonts show up at humanly readable sizes by defaults. Huzzah!

-I'm just a user and not always up with what the devs are doing so people should feel free to correct me if I've said something wrong...

[danboid]

Thanks very much for that JohnX- sounds like much progress has been made in recent months with Linux 2.6 Zaurus support.

It would be good to hear what the status is on a fully bvdd accelerated X-server or framebuffer, if such things are being worked on.

[lardman]

It would be good to hear what the status is on a fully bvdd accelerated X-server or framebuffer

My understanding is that RP is going to work on the accelerated framebuffer (or even has done some work on it already). I don't see why people can't do likewise for the Xserver in the meantime - there are already some accelerated Xservers in OE, but not for the C7x0 or Cxxxx machines. Afaict this is simply due to a lack of time (though I'd ask on #oe & #gpe). I was planning to port the acceleration stuff from the pdaXrom Xserver to the OE version for my c7x0 - it doesn't look like a great deal of patching - but am a bit busy at the moment.

-The bvdd kernel driver is not in 2.6. I have no idea if it will be there eventually, or if it might be replaced with a real accelerated framebuffer. AFAICT the Xserver that OZ/GPE uses does not support 320x240 mode so mplayer is pretty much a lost cause for the time being.

I don't really know what I'm talking about here, but the w100 driver for the c7x0 machines works with mplayer in zoomed mode (using SDL iirc), so I can't see why the bvdd won't also - just needs someone to add it I'd guess.

That said, I'm not an expert on graphics drivers so I may be wrong.


Si

[JohnX]

I don't really know what I'm talking about here, but the w100 driver for the c7x0 machines works with mplayer in zoomed mode (using SDL iirc), so I can't see why the bvdd won't also - just needs someone to add it I'd guess.

That said, I'm not an expert on graphics drivers so I may be wrong.

Well, that makes two graphics non-experts then.  I played with mplayer a very small amount on 2.6.14 (or .15? don't remember) and it worked, but played in a little 320x240 box in the center of the screen with -vo x11.  In this mode it seemed to be playing fast enough for everyday use.  Therefore, by having either 1) the bvdd driver setup like in 2.4 where mplayer uses /dev/bvdd to write directly to the framebuffer -or- 2) an xserver that could switch video modes on the fly (ie "zoom"), we would have workable video.  Unfortunately we have neither.  But really just as long as I have LTris and LBreakout2, that's all the entertainment I need.

[obergix]

-I have no idea at all about using the Z as a USB device connected to a USB host.  I don't even know where my cable is.   

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Just wanted to complement on this, from my experience on 3.5.4.1-alpha1, which has been released a couple days ago.

This seems to be working with the ohci_hcd driver.

Hope this helps.